Gotta love ZERO RISK in the SP500 = $$$

der_kommissar said:
Yeah, it will test well in a low vix, centrally planned bull market...it's almost robotic...just like in 07, once the market starts having some >2% down days, that trade blows up (and it does so spectacularly)...after all, 8/24 alone would wipe out probably a years worth of gains (if not, many months of them)...
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yea..gotta love it, especially when the thread is titled "zero risk in the SP500" and the thread was started many many moons ago. And yet rickshaw still pulling those wheels overnight on the ES and missing some eyebrows by now
 
Pricechange said:
yea..gotta love it, especially when the thread is titled "zero risk in the SP500" and the thread was started many many moons ago. And yet rickshaw still pulling those wheels overnight on the ES and missing some eyebrows by now
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In all fairness, when the market goes into it's robotic uptrend, it looks like a genius strategy...or the fact that literally any and every dip can be bought with impunity.
 
der_kommissar said:
Here is a blast from the past...similar juncture back in 07...skeptics were abundant back then...

(btw, S2007S was there...lol)

http://www.elitetrader.com/et/index.php?threads/bear-market-is-here-worst-than-87-crash.100014/
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Goes to show that the stock market is all about conditioning. Many people here tried to short the S&P in the last few years and they were crushed, these guys have now been replaced with permabulls who'd buy every single dip without giving a second thought about it, these people too, will be crushed eventually.
 
trickshot said:
Goes to show that the stock market is all about conditioning. Many people here tried to short the S&P in the last few years and they were crushed, these guys have now been replaced with permabulls who'd buy every single dip without giving a second thought about it, these people too, will be crushed eventually.
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Very true...basically we are always working against the "hard wiring" in our brains...I think that the "speed" of the market also plays into this tendency...for instance, a very slow choppy uptrend brings out lots of faders, who scale short and then one large gap higher and they capitulate and it reverses...likewise, recently the downtrends have had a similar choppiness and whipsaw quality that attracts alot of faders in the other direction...
 
romik said:
At the same time nothing is definite in markets.
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Don't see the point of such long term predictions.

BTW Im taking bets, even money, that 2014 lows hold this year, Marketsurfer is on, anyone else is free to join, any amount is fine, let me know if you interested or anyone else for that matter.
 
der_kommissar said:
Very true...basically we are always working against the "hard wiring" in our brains...I think that the "speed" of the market also plays into this tendency...for instance, a very slow choppy uptrend brings out lots of faders, who scale short and then one large gap higher and they capitulate and it reverses...likewise, recently the downtrends have had a similar choppiness and whipsaw quality that attracts alot of faders in the other direction...
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Yea the bear market would be over real quick if we dropped 20% in a day, these 1-2% selloffs followed by frequent backfills induce complacency and lead many traders to trade counter trend without realising that it can sometimes be deadly.
 
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