GOPers call Trump unfit for Presidency

[AAAintheBeltway]

Bottom line is we have a bunch of sore losers who are fine when their faction wins. The rest of us are supposed to just fall into line, and we have. But when they lose, it is all the drama, "this is not my republican party", blah blah blah. Yeah, well too bad.

In fact, they do have a point. Historically the republican party, the party of Lincoln after all, was a regional party that was progressive on social issues and corporatist on economic ones. It had its base in the northeast, new england and mid west. This was the party of the Rockefellers, the Lodges, the Prescott Bushes, patrician country clubbers who appealed to those who didn't like the blue collar, southern-focused democrats. They were a minority party, and only won the presidency in odd circumstances, like when they ran war hero Ike.

The ascendancy of Goldwater, Nixon and Reagan, all loathed by the party establishment and media, changed all that in a big way. Suddenly the republicans were a majority party that attracted working class whites in huge numbers, and the democrats leftward lurch only strengthened that trend. It took a descendant of the country clubbers, George Bush, to pretty much destroy that coalition and tarnish the party's brand.

We are at an inflection point. The Trump voters are up for grabs. They could vote for a Jim Webb democrat or for a Trump republican. Maybe it destroys the republican party, maybe the democrats become more centrist and go back to their own roots as the party of the working class and not a coalition of radical activist groups.

 

[der_kommissar]

maybe the democrats become more centrist and go back to their own roots as the party of the working class and not a coalition of radical activist groups.

No chance whatsoever of that happening again..."Centrism" has/had more to do with economic prosperity than anything else...You can appeal to the middle when the economic mood is high...You have to move to the extremes when the wealth disparity grows...Since we are stuck in a perpetual ZIRP/NIRP feedback loop, the rhetoric will only become more toxic, not less.

 

[AAAintheBeltway]

No chance whatsoever of that happening again..."Centrism" has/had more to do with economic prosperity than anything else...You can appeal to the middle when the economic mood is high...You have to move to the extremes when the wealth disparity grows...Since we are stuck in a perpetual ZIRP/NIRP feedback loop, the rhetoric will only become more toxic, not less.

You're probably right, in which case the establishment of both parties should be hoping for a Trump win. If he loses, what follows is unlikely to please them. Bottom line, Trump is a rich, sophisticated New Yorker with ties to both parties. If we end up with large numbers of disaffected people with no stake in maintaining the system, and add in nonstop terrorist attacks like France, the UK and Germany are having, a nationalistic party would have considerable appeal.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

The guy doesn't even sound genuine when reading a prompter. He sounds like an anal retentive imbecile reading script.

That is exactly what I was thinking when I heard his speech yesterday. He read the speech like it was for the very first time and in a remedial reading class, with awkward and inappropriate inflections and so on. He clearly didn't write the speech. You can tell when he ad-libbed occasionally, stressing a point, and it started sounding like him again. (Not that that's a plus, either.)

 

[AAAintheBeltway]

He certainly isn't as genuine sounding as Hillary when she is trying to talk in ebonics at those black churches. Real Meryl Streep she is.

 

[fhl]

Hey, if you don't like the way Trump reads a teleprompter, then vote for Hillary, who reads 'sigh' off of her teleprompter. Look it up.
LMAO

 

[fhl]

She's appealing to the idiots in society?

 

[CaptainObvious]

Trump is not an ideal candidate, and from a strictly political position he's horrible as a politician. That is his great appeal, and may be his downfall. The fact that political hacks in the republican party are bailing out on him, while all the dems are goose stepping behind Hillary tells us who the bought and paid for whores are.

 

[Scataphagos]

She's appealing to the idiots in society?

The Leftists have bought the support of America's ne'er-do-wells (at the expense of taxpayers, of course) and brainwashed them through the MSM.

The genius Founders never envisioned "such people" would have a vote in the running of our country. Voters should be intelligent, pay attention, and have "skin in the game". All others (specifically... "disengaged, greedy, brain-dead parasites") should NOT have a say in how the country is run.

 

[achilles28]

I read every word you wrote. It is you who is so blinded by either Clinton or Democrats in general that normal circuit breakers in your brain aren't functioning properly. No one with any self-respect would be seen let alone vote for Trump for the highest office in the US. But I suspect close to 40,000,000 people will. That is the signal.

Clinton might be Lucifer disguised as Clinton. The difference is,no one in her party is signing documents to the effect. Whereas huge number of people on both sides are gravely concerned about Trump. Common Sense. Occams' Razor. The wisdom of crowds. Etc. You are very likely the same handle arguing with futurecurrents on global warming because you are displaying similar delusional blindness to facts here as the usual suspects are there.

But don't worry you will get your crazy man one day. I believe that the US is going to hurting so bad in the coming decade that like in 1930s Germany people will be so desperate they will choose a Trump-like candidate. All you need to do is convince another 15 to 20 million more people, and you get your wish.

But not today.

This is really rich

The trump-hating republicans are avowed neoconservative globalists. They are not highly respected. They're garbage scum of the earth. Nobody respects them in the Republican Party except other rino neocons. Guess what. They lost. The nationalists won.

Nobody has signed documents disavowing Clinton? Most Bernie supporters hate Hillary, know what a scumbag she is and won't vote for her. To say she's a respected candidate because the bought and paid for corporate shills in Washington support her, really the height of idiocy. She armed terrorists dude. She outted American spies. Trump built a ten billion dollar fortune out of a few million bucks. He wants to bring jobs back to America. You would rather vote for more of the same, pile up the debt and export jobs cause you want hugs from a psycho and the medias stamp of approval.

You're right about America being 1930s Germany. But that's exactly because of the assholes you support. They export jobs, run up the debt to astromnomical levels, jack taxes and regulation and saddle the taxpayer with all kinds of gimmie programs that bankrupt the treasury. That's what you support. Not me. Trump wants to reverse all that garbage