GOOG Oct strangle on the 18th, close the 19th.

Quote from scriabinop23:

thats not what I'm saying.

Look at the options volumes on GOOG compared to almost any other stocks [much more]. Then compare the option volumes (at the money) to the underlying stock volume. Doing this simple math, you'll quickly realize that the options trades are moving this stock more than underlying stock buyers in a day like today.

GOOG pins like no other stock I've seen.

today:
ie at 640-660 call october strikes, 82k options
and put strikes 630-660, 122k options

and november options today: 20k options in that same strike range.

lets avg the delta exposure amongst all those strikes to a generous 30. (early in the day you have a lot more deltas than later of course due to fast decay)

224k options * 100 shares * .30 (delta multiplier) = 6.72 million shares out of total already 10.7 million.

Add in program trading from indexes in a high volume day like today, and I bet not more than 1 or 2 million outright shares traded today (versus options hedging stock share trades).

Thats pinning for you.


I'll believe that. It's just that for some reason pinning is this new en vogue subject. I think it's due to Cramer, every month like clockwork, rattling off some arbitrary list of stocks and claiming that they all "have" to get pinned at whatever the nearest strike happens to be, without the necessary analysis.
 
Quote from forex-forex:

Decided to open the position today since it's a slow day for GOOG.

GOOG at $620.00.
1 contract 650 Oct call @ $6.90.
1 contract 600 Oct put @ $9.10.
Commission $70.00.
Total $1670.00.

GOOG price target for Friday >$682 or <$568. I would like a 2x return for this sort of risk.
Quote from wenzi:

Maybe a break from options for a while. Take a break and do some reading. IV crush is a thing you really need to understand.

So what was the final tally (best case) for this trade? I took a quick look around 10:20 and got an estimated 85% haircut on the play (inc $70 commish). However, closing earlier would have gotten somewhat better return...

Although a short strangle would have won this one, as we've seen before, that's an even riskier position. Either way, I struggle to differentiate between this type of play and randomness (coin-flipping, roulette, etc.).

I think there was a thread a while back where someone posted that after researching thousands of earnings events, they had developed an edge and could demonstrate an ongoing profit.

R
 
Quote from Eliot Hosewater:

Just got a fill at 7.50 on a 610/620/640/650 IC on the off chance that it goes nowhere.

I'm willing to risk $250.

Probably should have waited another hour and a half.

Yeah, I should have waited until almost closing yesterday. I would have raised the IC by 10.
 
Quote from forex-forex:

Closed the 650 call for $0.95. SBUX earnings come soon, I am think of some Jan calls.

yea whats your love with sbux? don't waste your time trying to make lost $$$ on that stock. You'll just lose more. there's a whole list of much better stock with higher probability payoff.


Buy some FCX or BA calls... much better value and upside.
 
Quote from Eliot Hosewater:

Yeah, I should have waited until almost closing yesterday. I would have raised the IC by 10.
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Whew, got out with 2 minutes to spare at $5. I held on and figured a lot of folks didn't want to hold into the weekend. It went down to $3.50 for a second, but I didn't pull the trigger fast enough.

Paid for the new Espresso machine I just bought, plus a pound of coffee.
 
Quote from forex-forex:

SBUX earnings come soon, I am think of some Jan calls.

forex^2,
Plan your trades and trade your plan.

Random guessing , hoping, and luck is not a trading plan.
 
Quote from forex-forex:

Closed the 650 call for $0.95. SBUX earnings come soon, I am think of some Jan calls.
So, what was the final outcome of your long goog strangle?
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