Good Markets to Trade Off US Hours

lpchad · Apr 24, 2009

Looking for suggestions on markets to trade outside of US hours. This would be for guys like me that still have a 9-5. Should I consider non-US markets? Maybe look into the HSI?

I have considered futures on Globex but not sure about the liquidity in the evening. Gets a little thin at times.

Thoughts?

jtr3 · Apr 24, 2009

I am in the same boat and actually get up early and trade FESX ( http://www.eurexchange.com/index.html ) when I have the later shift. I have also started looking into Fx. Fx and its price spreads are a little weird to get used to.

MandelbrotSet · Apr 24, 2009

You should only be trading CME Group products.

Go to the website and explore to your hearts content.

The Japanese Yen and EuroFX are e-mini's are two products that come to mind, that you can trade successfully during the non 9 to 5 hours.

dandxg · Apr 24, 2009

Some folks seem to like KOSPI 200. I can't trade through IB so that's out. Forex/currency futures are thin until London open.

MandelbrotSet · Apr 24, 2009

Quote from dandxg:

Forex/currency futures are thin until London open.

Actually, the Japanese Yen has decent volume at the Asian open, which is why I mentioned it.

Trader273 · Apr 24, 2009

Quote from MandelbrotSet:

The Japanese Yen and EuroFX are e-mini's

Actually these arent mini's. They have mini versions of these products but volume is pretty thin. Still a good product to trade, but since its not a mini the margin is gererally higher then say the ES.

austinp · Apr 24, 2009

Quote from Trader273:

Actually these arent mini's. They have mini versions of these products but volume is pretty thin. Still a good product to trade, but since its not a mini the margin is gererally higher then say the ES.

Not with a real futures broker... same margins for 6E or 6Y as ES

If your broker doesn't offer $500 margins for these contracts, you can do better elsewhere

MandelbrotSet · Apr 24, 2009

Quote from Trader273:

Actually these arent mini's. They have mini versions of these products but volume is pretty thin. Still a good product to trade, but since its not a mini the margin is gererally higher then say the ES.

Yeah, you're right.

But as austinp mentioned, the margin requirements are so low (pretty much in-line with the ES), I automatically think of them as being "mini's".

dandxg · Apr 26, 2009

Quote from MandelbrotSet:

Actually, the Japanese Yen has decent volume at the Asian open, which is why I mentioned it.

JJ I think you are right. Watching it now has nice movement. Makes sense it's their prime time.

Stosh · Apr 26, 2009

Do any of the options on futures have any liquidity overnight? I'm in the U.S., it is Sunday eve, I can't find any futures options that are trading on TWS, not even ES options. Stosh