Good example of why unions are stupid as all hell
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Tsing,
I have no desire to withdraw any statement, nor do I have any desire to drop a bomb in your Cheerios, but I will say you are severely mistaken in your thinking.
I am always glad to be educated, and I thank you for taking the time to turn up a google inquiry about Reagan and the ATC.
The real irony here is that, once you learned that Reagan dealt a defeating blow to the Professional Air Traffic Control Organization, or PATCO, you obviously felt complacent to stop short your own education on the matter.
Reagan had no agenda to reform unions across America, let alone abolish them.
In fact PATCO, the Teamsters, and the Air Line Pilots Association all refused to back Jimmy Carter during the 1980 election, and they instead endorsed Reagan.
Why?
Because the democrats had poor relations with the Federal Aviation Association, while Reagan supported the unions, and promised to help them fight for better work conditions.
About a year and a half after Reagan took office, the union decided to strike, but they f'd up big time because in doing so they violated the law, as government unions were not allowed to strike.
Reagan told the 13,000 air controllers to get back to work or their asses would be fired. Only about 10% conceded, and the rest were shit-canned.
This was simply an incident that Reagan had no choice but to handle as it was a pending matter of national security, or a "peril to national safety" in Reagan's own words.
I would say that President Reagan did a fine job handling an f'd up isolated situation, but that is all it was.
It had nothing to do with any republican agendas to get rid of unions, as Reagan happily let another union, the National Air Traffic Controllers Association, take over in 1986 after the federal govt and the military grew tired of trying to handle the monumental fuck up.
-Newman
p.s. I wonder how "dumbfounded" all the PATCO employees were who voted for Reagan, thinking he would have their backs, instead of being the very one to fire them...
As someone on another forum I go to - a right winger, but not the kind of nut job that inhabits the P&R forum here - pointed out, the workers might have rolled the dice on doing better with whoever buys the assets. It might have been a poor choice on their part, but none of us were in that company knowing what was going on from the inside. What we do know is that over the past few years it went through a bunch of CEOs, was in and out of bankruptcy once already, and was in trouble all along.
Being a bunch of backseat drivers telling the workers they should have just bent over and taken it without grease is pretty stupid. But stupid is normal around here.