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Indeed but very few earn 300k-400k in their first years either. In the same way no junior S&T sandwich fetcher makes an MD salary in their first years.

I haven't read a single post from this thread but a decent med-specialty and becoming a Director on a desk are going to have similar ten-year income potential. Residency pays $60K on average. Nobody would enter the field if the potential was 2-3X Residency pay.
 
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Thank you for reminding me how good i have it in this peerless mode of self-sufficiency :)

I think the best path is getting an education in something practical, work a few years in a professional setting to get some experience and then work for yourself.
 
I haven't read a single post from this thread but a decent med-specialty and becoming a Director on a desk are going to have similar ten-year income potential. Residency pays $60K on average. Nobody would enter the field if the potential was 2-3X Residency pay.

I know an oncologist (I can share in the chat) who was making 150k at a teaching hospital. She did it because she got to work on the interesting (dr house style) patients.

however she just left for industry and makes like 800k/year working 40 hours/week and perks galore.

most jobs like that are a better life than a low level MD at a bank when you adjust for risk, stress, and gratification.
 
Are you aware of the difference between "median" and bloody beginner? You are comparing fresh out of school know-nothings with folks in the middle of their careers. I am still astonished at your seeming ignorance about basic summarization statistics.

You must not have noticed the "yrs=0" part of the URL assuming that you never even bothered to click on the link. Regarding your: "I am still astonished at your seeming ignorance about basic summarization statistics." Look in the mirror dude. Looks like you lack basic reading comprehension. Also, why are you always pissed off and so quick to fault others on this forum? Anyone can look over your posts and quickly come to the conclusion that you are completely missing the top 3 levels of Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
 
Why would I even want the work product of someone working that many hours?
We're not talking about digging holes, we're talking about thinking.
They're going to be so fried from being up that many hours, that I would not trust their work.
Maybe it's just for hazing purposes.
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Fried = bad for health.......................................
And not enough sleep\ if they really do work those hours?? More bad health, more bad work eventually like a sleepwalker.:caution::caution:
 
Stupidity pisses me off, sorry, can't help it.

Your original point is still factually incorrect. But you believe what you must believe if that makes you feel better.

You must not have noticed the "yrs=0" part of the URL assuming that you never even bothered to click on the link. Regarding your: "I am still astonished at your seeming ignorance about basic summarization statistics." Look in the mirror dude. Looks like you lack basic reading comprehension. Also, why are you always pissed off and so quick to fault others on this forum? Anyone can look over your posts and quickly come to the conclusion that you are completely missing the top 3 levels of Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
 
It is irrelevant what some article stated. You can find opinions for any persuasion on the internet. I know for a fact that the median income for those 2 or 3 years into their job after residency does not reach stated levels. The statistics are openly accessible when obtaining the data from wide ranging and multiple fact based sources.

It was your own miscomprehension that caused you to become frustrated. You are quick to find fault in others.
 
Exactly. If you have a career path that requires:

1. Getting into med school / getting good MCAT, good interviews, knowledge, etc otherwise, you might be stuck with low income potential undergrad degree.
2. Med school: Very intellectually challenging, many long nights studying, going hundreds of $ into debt while your business and engineering peers are out earning income immediately after 4 years of undergrad.
3. Residency and fellowship at low pay - $60-70k.
4. Finally start earnings money at early to mid 30s.

You'll need to be compensated for all that -- hard work + risk. Getting 4 year undergrad degree in business or engineering is relatively much easier and far less risk.



UW is a very good med school.

And plus the medical field is a lot of risk imo plus the long hours. To me being a doctor is more about service than earning money dealing with all the crap, blood, urine, s***, pus, and phlegms of total strangers including criminals, biggest a$$holes on earth with professionalism and dedication. We get a little virus, we stay home, they have to go out and work 24 hours around the clock, sometimes without even PPE to try to save the lives of some schmuck who decided to not wear masks and hug people amidst a virus outbreak because the virus should respect personal liberty.

Compare to these, these Goldman Sachs junior bankers had it good; they just have to deal with paper, not viruses, bacteria, or parasites that can potentially kill them. If they really feel it is too much, they can always quit and let whoever that's left to deal with the s***.
 
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