Gold is predicting big problems ahead!

Quote from studyandtrade:

Don't think you made money trading US stocks. Measured in real money -GOLD- you didn't make much trading the QQQQ since October 2002 and you are even losing since May 2005! It's the same story for the Dow.
We have very big divergences between the major stock indices and gold which normally is a precursor of BIG, BIG TROUBLE ahead.
Be warned!
And I add:
Today, Friday January 20th, '06 we have seen the biggest down day in the Dow since the start of the top in January '04. I quote Jesse Lauriston Livermore: "Never be afraid of the normal movement. But be very fearful of abnormal movements. --- and by abnormal I mean a reaction from an extreme price, something it has not had before. And when something happens abnormally stock-marketwise, it is flashing you a danger signal which must not be ignored." (page 22 & 24 'How to Trade in Stocks')
 
Quote from Hydroblunt:

In times of true financial crisis, like war or revolution, Gold isnt worth anything. Anyone who went through those problems in Eastern Europe will tell you just that. What matters is food, water, shelter, clothing, medical supplies & firearms. During WWII, bread and clothes were the actual currency not gold coins.

You think anyone is gonna honor your Gold futures contracts if the dollar goes? Get real. Unless you're holding physical gold in small denominations, not much you're gonna be able to do. Even then, who do you think will have the real bargaining power, the guy selling you the food or you with the Gold ingots.


My post was specifically directed at dont’s ill informed comment and not an inducement on anyone to blindly accumulate gold without addressing their particular circumstances. Although I hold physical gold, I am not particularly fond of the stuff, and only hold it as a form of insurance, which is all it is. One can make a lot more money in this climate than they can by buying gold. For you to suggest that I get real on anyone honoring MY gold futures contracts is pure fantasy since I only ever mentioned physical gold, never gold futures, which I agree with you have every possibility of not being honored in a serious crisis. Gold has served as a medium of exchange through eternity and in all manner of crisis. Food, shelter clothing, water etc do not make good exchange mediums, and I’m not about to pay for my medical supplies with sex, so gold has a purpose at the end of the day for me at least. The US BTW will never be like Eastern Europe because it is not cut off from the rest of the world, and as for the US going through a WWII scenario internally, that’s ridiculous.
 
Quote from studyandtrade's post:But be very fearful of abnormal movements. --- and by abnormal I mean a reaction from an extreme price, something it has not had before. And when something happens abnormally stock-marketwise, it is flashing you a danger signal which must not be ignored.

The Russell 2000 hit an all time high Thursday, and by a good margin. Those new highs sure didn't hold for very long, did they??
 
My purely-mechanical trendfollowing system went long Gold futures on 19 September 2005 and got filled (including contract rollovers) at 471.5. Gold futures closed on Friday at 554.0 for a gain (so far) of $8250 per contract. I don't personally give a crap about "fiat money" or any of the other argumentative, obnoxious phrases that goldbugs obsess over. But for now, gold futures are in a trend (up) and I'm aboard. When it ends, I'm out. When it skyrockets downwards into the absolute toilet, I'm short. No emotions, no preening about "My prediction came true", no "I told you so", just simple following the trend.

1. Wait until it's FwordING obvious the trend is up, then go long.
2. Wait until it's FwordING obvious the trend is over, then exit.
3. Wait until it's FwordING obvious the trend is down, then go short.
Not rocket science.

(link to my system)
 
Hogwash!
I am from Eastern Europe and people always hoarded gold and real assets at the time their currencies were in real trouble. many jews live's were saved during WWII exactly because they had gold. My family lived thru WWII and 1956 revolution and while the other assets you mentioned were important - they usually could be bought for gold ! Case closed...
Quote from Hydroblunt:

In times of true financial crisis, like war or revolution, Gold isnt worth anything. Anyone who went through those problems in Eastern Europe will tell you just that. What matters is food, water, shelter, clothing, medical supplies & firearms. During WWII, bread and clothes were the actual currency not gold coins.

You think anyone is gonna honor your Gold futures contracts if the dollar goes? Get real. Unless you're holding physical gold in small denominations, not much you're gonna be able to do. Even then, who do you think will have the real bargaining power, the guy selling you the food or you with the Gold ingots.
 
Quote from Ivanovich:

ET is essentially composed of three types of people:

1. The "Housing-is-doomed-because-of-Greenspan", "Fiat-currency-Bush-is-a-monkey", "End-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-so-buy-gold-until-you-explode", long oil, perma-bears...

2. The "what bubble?", "US-has-weathered-many-tough-times", "to-the-moon-baby!", "goldbugs-are-a-laugh", "GOOG-to-1000", bulls.

3. Comedy relief morons like ZZZZZZzzzz, SkaLpZ, etc.

There are slightly more rare hybrids of the first two out there, but every thread lately is pretty much a fight between the two extreme types, or a jackass followup post by one of those in #3.

I'm long oil stocks and I"m not in category 1.
In turbulent times, you need two things, GOLD and the gun. Yeah, you want bread? Make the baker an offer he can't resist(from the Godfather ):D
 
Quote from OldTrader:

I don't measure my returns in gold, do you? LOL!

How much money did you make in gold since 1980?

OldTrader

"Also, dont forget that the last time the markets were at these levels there were 40% fewer $$$'s in circulation. So maybe the bears have been correct all along."

how about measuring in terms of dollars in circulation?
source:orginalskunk
 
Quote from dont:

When the dollar is worth nothing I promise you Gold won't help you either stock up on Coffee and chocolate for Barter.

seriously isn't chocolate too perishable and too variable to use for barter?
 
My father lived through WII in europe and his family survived on a bag of coffee. You might be right about the chocolate though!
 
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