GOD & Taxes

[stu]

God Doesn't Pay Taxes

....... but can't see hypocrisy in pronouncing what to render unto Caesar.

 

[murray t turtle]

Only five problems:
what do you mean by "word",
what do you mean by "good",
what do you mean by "God",
what do you mean by "pay" and
what do you mean by "taxes"?

Vaguery plays in the favor of that which *takes* by deception or force. So why are you being so vague?

Other problem is the word of Good1 says otherwise, so i don't know how you are going to overcome that problem by appealing to authority by virtue of liturgical (things written in books) antiquity (old things are more true?)...if that's what you mean. The most authoritative statements about Good could be written tomorrow...or today...by any qualified penman. But i would never call them the word "of" Good as words don't emanate in any direct way from that which is really Good. Words come about in an extremely roundabout fashion, themselves, like faith, initially invented as weapons against the truth. What we have today and tomorrow is consistency of position in which no position is, or can be contravened by any other position. It is this consistency which marks the signature of truth.

If you are saying i should pay the condo fees of whatever condo association i have chosen to join, then yes, i should pay those. Are those taxes? Or perhaps they are better qualified as agreements fulfilled (or not). Unless it is a contractual obligation, taxes represent a "taking" (plural "takings").
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Taxes?? sorry i'm not a CPA LOL. The Word =Holy bible; pay for taxes; + not a penny more than you owe..…………………………………………………………………...1776 proved a limited gov wins.

Taxes, as such, are what the god of this world does to Good. That is, that which owns nothing must take from that which owns everything.

If you disagree, tell me, what exactly does the entity that takes your taxes actually own? This is important because even by your own standards, we are obliged to pay only what one owns (what "belongs" to "Ceasar"). If the fruit of your labor belongs to "Ceasar", then pay it, even all of it, otherwise go to plan B. To make this thought experiment as simple as possible, tell me what exactly belonged to Caligula?

Plan B is to recognize that you are being threatened either by deception or force or both to take what belongs to YOU (and or to Good). Assessing the threat, and assessing your perceived vulnerability, you will either comply in whole or in part to the demands put upon you.

To be consistent, you would need to admit that you owe a Jizya tax to one or several Islamic authorities, right now, as we speak. This tax is laid NOW, upon the ENTIRE world population. Islam claims the entire world for it's jurisdiction and this tax has not been repealed since their own book of antiquity was penned by interested parties within a couple hundred years of the marauder Mohammed.

Since you are an unbeliever in Islam, why don't you pay this tax? Aha, because the swords of Islam have not (yet) reached control of your locality to enforce the existing edict.

Right now, what belongs to Islam? Does the fruit of your labor belong to Islam right now? 10%? 100%? If not, why not?

One hundred years from now when Islam gains control over the USA through deception, force, or both, what then belongs to Islam? Does the fruit of your labor THEN belong to Islam (it's priests/imams)?

My point is this: you pay taxes according to the level of deception or threat of force that you feel vulnerable to. And this is not something that is regulated by Good (the one and only Good), whose motto is more like: FEAR NOT.

The whole point of "overcoming the world" is about overcoming the fear of threat by deception or force (or both) upon one's perceived vulnerabilities, which is the STATUS QUO from the beginning of such world till it's end.

Christ is about re-assessing your perception of vulnerability such that you are no longer threatened by deception or force from any source. In fact, anything that gives rise to fear (through deception or force) is entirely illegitimate. Since the material worlds give rise to fear through deception and/or force, the material worlds are entirely illegitimate (own nothing).

Your assessment about your own vulnerabilities is YOUR OWN BUSINESS, not Christ's. According to Christ, you are not vulnerable to anything. This is based on KNOWLEDGE. It is only ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN FAITH you are vulnerable to forces from without and/or within. Taxes ("takings"), then, are the wages of sin, meaning: so long as you walk by your own faith and not the knowledge of Christ, you will be constantly badgered by vulnerability assessments that emanate from ignorance.

As it stands, material objects (such as bodies) are vulnerable to forces of deception (blunt force, such as baseball bats and swords can be classified as deceptions given the knowledge of Christ). The only way to be free from vulnerabilities is to NOT BE A BODY. Christ teaches you how to be invulnerable by dissociating yourself from the body. Christ, being 100% spirit/mind and 0% body, is not vulnerable to anything, and so, nothing that belongs to Christ can be taken from Christ.

If you, like all Christians, deny that you are Christ, then yes, you are some % body (10% ? 100% ?) and will succumb accordingly to the threats upon your assessment of your SELF. Again, that is YOUR BUSINESS, not Christ's, which endeavors to re-deem your assessment of your SELF.

The only way you could be 10% body is to DESIRE it to be SO (believe in it). Thus, a 10% "tax" (taking) is the inevitable result of your own ignorance about Christ.

Plan B is about how you can keep your assessment (deeming) of your SELF to some %percent of bodily existence, and cope with the threats to your vulnerability (as such). In re-deeming (re-assessing) what constitutes your SELF according to the leadership of Jesus, you would not pay taxes (takings) according your assessments. But in re-deeming your SELF, you would no longer claim any %percent of bodily existence. If you think Christ is half man half god, then your tax (takings) rate should be approximately 50% because what you do to Christ you do it to yourself.

Your tax rate decreases proportionately as your footprint in the world of "the god of this world" decreases. If you want to do "big business" in it's world, then your footprint increases. Coveting a bodily existence also increases taxes (threats against your vulnerabilities) accordingly. Your covetousness, whether intense or mild, is YOUR BUSINESS, and is only regulated by advice to not be covetous at all (do not desire a body as any part of your existence).

In the USA there is a tax (taking) on the sin of ignorant faith (belief in an income tax for the average person abiding in the states). So US income taxes are like a sin tax. Christ cannot ask you to pay this tax any more than Christ can ask you to sin. Since faith is mostly arrogant, the income tax in the US seems the most fair to me. Arrogant people deserve to be deceived. So i have not much incentive to release you of the perceived obligation by explaining the law in detail...except to say that the phrasing of law is used to deceive...and that it is voluntary according to law. It becomes mandatory only according to your faith about the law.

But lets say that it was "mandatory" by law, meaning, the taker (the State) actually has the ratification (mandate) of a majority of peoples to transparently (clear in law) collect an income tax upon itself. If you feel yourself accessory to this social contract, then yes, pay your part...if you wish to remain unmolested as a body existing in this world. Even if you don't feel yourself accessory to any kind of social contract, you will pay according to how much peace (non-molestation) you wish to maintain in your experience. You will make an assessment about how much you think you need to give up to gain what you really want: a body that exists unmolested in this world. Again, that is your business not Christ's, because you are not supposed to be a body in the first place. You don't own a body, so to speak, and neither does a legal entity own a body let alone yours. You only "own" a body to the degree that you are a sinner (ignorant of the knowledge of Christ), and become more and more vulnerable to the degree you think you own one.

 

[Good1]

Domrémy and Greux were exempted from taxes "forever" by Charles VII in 1429. It was the sole request made of the king by Joan of Arc when Charles asked her how he could show her his appreciation for seeing him crowned; Joan felt that taxes burdened the villagers. Moreover, he wished to do a good deed for her success in fighting the English during the Hundred Years' War. Taxes were imposed upon Domrémy and Greux again during the French Revolution; the residents have paid taxes since.[2][3]

If you check again the story of Joan of Arc you can see how hard she worked to get this deadbeat prince to assume his hereditary validity and claim the throne of France, only to be betrayed for her efforts, except for the promise to not tax her hometown per her request.

Strangely, Joan was guided by entities, at least their voices, or their foresight, to help this deadbeat duke into power through battle and skirmishes with the occupying English (occupying France) in the latter part of the hundred years war. She was so successful in military matters that the English figured she was some kind of witch. She was given to know enough about the future that she would have one year of military effectiveness, but because of the deadbeat duke, whom she was trying to help, she only got to use about six or seven months of her one year of fame. She was never told how she would die...in exchange for this fifteen minutes (so to speak) of fame. Both she and her guides were convinced that this deadbeat duke was the best thing for the relative liberation of occupied France, whose throne was claimed by an English king, assuming hereditary validity, but apparently not as valid as the deadbeat duke's claim.

All this raises red flags for anyone trained in my brand of philosophy. Maybe more later.