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Gonna look at this in detail later today!This might take a while to work through because there are a lot of red flags popping up for me, and I think it's best to go through each one, one at a time.
For starters, if you are in agreement with the article when it says (boldness added) the following:
Then, would you please show me how anywhere in Galatians chapter 2:7-9 there are two gospels? I can only find one.But you have to know which Gospel. Paul tells us in Galatians 2:7-9 that there were two Gospels, one that he (Paul) preached to the Gentiles (uncircumcision) by revelation from Jesus Christ. And the other that John the Baptist, Jesus, Peter and the 12 preached to the Jews or Nation of Israel (circumcision). So as you study, notice who is speaking and who is being spoken to.
I see that God directed Paul to the gentiles and God directed Peter to work with Jews, but I do not see anything at all that their Gospel message was different depending on the audience, especially when considering how often Paul refers to other church leaders or having the church imitate the churches in Judea.7 On the contrary, they recognized that I had been entrusted with the task of preaching the gospel to the uncircumcised, just as Peter had been to the circumcised.8 For God, who was at work in Peter as an apostle to the circumcised, was also at work in me as an apostle to the Gentiles.9 James, Cephas and John, those esteemed as pillars, gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship when they recognized the grace given to me. They agreed that we should go to the Gentiles, and they to the circumcised.
Also, do you see this sentence in the passage? "And the other that John the Baptist, Jesus, Peter and the 12 preached to the Jews or Nation of Israel (circumcision)" I don't see anything about that in this Galatians passage.
The way the author words it it sounds like he's got 3 gospel just in the disciples lifetime.
Also, don't you agree that gospel simply means good news? Would using the word gospel, if exchanged with the words, "good news" mean that this was the message that contained all the criteria needed to be saved every time it is used, or could it mean, sometimes, just the simple meaning of "good news" ?
And thanks for answering the questions, if you want to debate this thing.
You mad bro? Why do you care so much?Yeah, that's the story you two clowns, spend your whole life going back and forward debating shit which means diddly squat in the real world, basically sums up Christianity.
I don't doubt one bit that God required animal sacrifices. A believer would obey God and offer them. An unbeliever might also obey God and offer them. There was a time when God said He wouldn't accept their sacrifices because of their unrepentant sinful conduct. So, just a sacrifice alone wasn't enough.
But once again, for women who actually never offered a sacrifice, because only men would offer them, would they have a different method of salvation than men? God would accept faith alone for women but it must be faith plus animal sacrifices for men?
I'm kind of just trying to get you to think, more than disagreeing with you. I'm not sure we are even told where the fine line is between the faith that God looked at to justify the Old Testament saints and the necessity of the sacrifices. A believer would obey and offer them, in faith. An unbeliever would not be helped in an eternal way by offering them, although there is reason to think that in a ceremonial and temporary way, some form of temporary forgiveness could have been applied, meaning the sins were covered so that judgement wouldn't come on the family or land, but the unbeliever's sacrifice would not absolve him from facing full judgement at the white throne judgment. At least, that is how I am understanding the Scriptures that discuss it.
See the salesman; he represents the church, a well oiled machine of preachers using their personalities and the pulpit to spread entertainment, charisma, to tell stories, to suck in humanity.
See the guy on the left with his back turned, they are people who refuse to be conned by professional soothsayers, to fall into line with group think, refuse to join the ranks of people who want to be led.
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Why do you think there is an abnormality in human occupations that priests want to 'play around' with little children? Why do Christians fall into hypocrisy so much?
I'll tell you why, because you can't live your life through someone else.
If you are going to live your life, then live it doing what you want, not what someone else wants you to do.
Once you learn to please yourself, then it becomes easier to please others.
This is not selfishness, this is being yourself.
Once your needs are met it is easier to meet others needs.
Being a slave to someone else does not bring satisfaction and disatisfaction leads to other problems.
The more you 'discipline' someone, a free spirit, the more they become resentful.
Obviously some discipline is required including self discipline.
I'll tell you why, because you can't live your life through someone else.
If you are going to live your life, then live it doing what you want, not what someone else wants you to do.
Once you learn to please yourself, then it becomes easier to please others.
This is not selfishness, this is being yourself.
Once your needs are met it is easier to meet others needs.
Being a slave to someone else does not bring satisfaction and disatisfaction leads to other problems.
The more you 'discipline' someone, a free spirit, the more they become resentful.
Obviously some discipline is required including self discipline.
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I agree with all of this....except:
If you are going to live your life, then live it doing what you want, not what someone else wants you to do.
Once you learn to please yourself, then it becomes easier to please others.
Once you learn to please yourself, then it becomes easier to please others.
Even living to please God by keeping all the commandments can be burdensome, which is what Galatians explains. That is why we need a mediator, Jesus, who fulfilled the law perfectly. Turning to Him and being reconciled to Him then frees us from having to perform the works of the law to gain favor with God, to doing what God commands out of love that we have ALREADY been given the righteousness of Christ.
There is a very big difference between the descriptions you keep posting about cult like obedience versus relationship obedience. "Jesus answered and said to him, 'If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word, and My Father will love him, and we will come to him and will make a home with him.'" John 14:23
If you were to take the whole bible, old & new testaments and say, " This is a guide, it's not rock solid but its an approximation, it is just one way of looking at things" you would do much better than saying "This is it! 100% truth which you must follow!".
The trouble though, you will always get narrow minded cultists who want to take things to extremes and proclaim superior knowledge.
The trouble though, you will always get narrow minded cultists who want to take things to extremes and proclaim superior knowledge.
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