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[themickey]

@themickey Do you think, if the Bible were to be true, that you are not able to be saved due to something, like maybe "blasphemy of the Holy Spirit" ? Because that would kind of explain some of your behavior.

If someone thinks they cannot be saved, it would probably drive them crazy to think the Bible could possibly be true, and I suppose it could drive them to not considering any evidence at all for the Bible.

Ya, one could dream up all sorts of theories for my attitude.
I've spent many years following the 'Jesus route'.
One thing I've done since a little child is study body language.
As well, observed christian behaviour in people, family, church aquaintences, friends, those religous people who make it in the media. "By their fruits ye shall know them".

Christians are no different than unbelievers, they fight, divorce, lie, the only difference is Christian will put on a front, on the surface appear nice, underneath they are just like Joe Citizen, sometimes worse, sometimes better.

I'm entitled to be a free thinker, express myself as I see best.
I'm not anti God, I love people and nature, love wildlife and our environment, marvel at creation.
But this bs about religion, it's just another man made hell hole to make life more difficult than it need be with rules, regulations, obligations, guilt etc.

You two guys whom I'm sparring with, I wish you all the best, but methinks you have not thought this through well enough.

You came to Christ, a decision you made on emotions, feelings, because of hearsay, tradition handed down, possibly because of peer pressure or admiration of someone (parents etc).
But now you are an adult it is time for you to dig deeper, look outside the bible box.
All you know is bible bible bible, one track narrow focus.

As mentioned, to get out of that is very difficult, I know.

 

[studentofthemarkets]

I know we are just waxing hypothetical; but if this were true, it would mean that his actions here would be efforts to take others 'down' with him.

The whole scenario sounds familiar; like it's been played out before; but on an angelic scale.

Right. There is a difference though. God does grant repentance to people, but not to angels.

 

[Overnight]

... For your own good, just listen (if you can handle getting through the song, probably not your style) and don't mock...

Indeed, do not mock. That fancy beautiful uplifting song is so far detached from reality it should make your head spin. But you fundamentalists will never accept what may have REALLY happened, and what the reality probably was...

 

[themickey]

Christians, narrow minded.
They believe they are exclusive, the chosen few, the narrow path.
NT Bible bs at its best! Cultists.
If you can't get your own way, resort to fear tactics. Eternal hell fire, damnation, cursed by God.
lmao

 

[userque]

Right. There is a difference though. God does grant repentance to people, but not to angels.

Makes sense.

They had/have first hand knowledge of things that we can only read about. And they've been alive for at least thousands of years, and should have-been/be pretty smart by then/now. Our average age is, what, 70ish?

Yet some still thought, "Hey! Let's overthrow Heaven!"

Maybe those same demons influenced and inspired the key players of Jan. 6th? "Hey, Let's overthrow The Capitol!

 

[studentofthemarkets]

Ya, one could dream up all sorts of theories for my attitude.
I've spent many years following the 'Jesus route'.
One thing I've done since a little child is study body language.
As well, observed christian behaviour in people, family, church aquaintences, friends, those religous people who make it in the media. "By their fruits ye shall know them".

Christians are no different than unbelievers, they fight, divorce, lie, the only difference is Christian will put on a front, on the surface appear nice, underneath they are just like Joe Citizen, sometimes worse, sometimes better.

I'm entitled to be a free thinker, express myself as I see best.
I'm not anti God, I love people and nature, love wildlife and our environment, marvel at creation.
But this bs about religion, it's just another man made hell hole to make life more difficult than it need be with rules, regulations, obligations, guilt etc.

You two guys whom I'm sparring with, I wish you all the best, but methinks you have not thought this through well enough.

You came to Christ, a decision you made on emotions, feelings, because of hearsay, tradition handed down, possibly because of peer pressure or admiration of someone (parents etc).
But now you are an adult it is time for you to dig deeper, look outside the bible box.
All you know is bible bible bible, one track narrow focus.

As mentioned, to get out of that is very difficult, I know, I've been there.

Ok. I just got a little worried because there are some Christians who believe that if one blasphemes the Holy Spirit, one can no longer become a Christian.

Mark 3:28–30: "Truly I tell you, people will be forgiven for their sins and whatever blasphemies they utter; but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit can never have forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin—for they had said, "He has an unclean spirit.""
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I remember reading that verse and wondering about it. Then one night, before I fell asleep I went over to my bedroom window to look outside. It was a beautiful scene. The moonlight and stars were usually very bright, there were no street lights, we lived in a beautiful hillside and the view was breathtaking. And there at the window, I did what I was very much afraid to so. I said the words. "I blaspheme the Holy Spirit." There. I had done it. It was now not possible for me to belong to God. I didn't actually want to not belong to God. I didn't want to blaspheme the Holy Spirit. I was so afraid of doing it, that I did it. (Was probably 12 years old at the time.)

This bothered me so much that a few days, or maybe a week or so later, I asked my dad what happens if someone blasphemes the Holy Spirit. And I got a deep theological explanation. Then I asked if someone could do it today and he said no. It's not possible to do today, because that was directed at the Pharisees who actually saw Jesus' miracles and would not believe in Jesus, but attributed Jesus' miracles to Satan's power. We don't have Jesus doing miracles in front of us today.

This is really important to understand because some movements within Christianity believe that it still can be done today. I do believe Scripture warns about hardening ones heart, and that can certainly lead down a path where it is harder to turn to God from.

I just wanted to share that because I still hope that someday you'll be one of those "whosoevers" who come to know Christ. And if you thought you couldn't, it could keep you from even trying, which could keep you from actually becoming, one of God's own.

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[Overnight]

...which could keep you from actually becoming, one of God's own.

Who the hell wants to become "one of God's own"?

 

[studentofthemarkets]

Found something interesting ...

https://www.gotquestions.org/blasphemy-Holy-Spirit.html
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Again, the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit cannot be repeated today, although some people try. Jesus Christ is not on earth—He is seated at the right hand of God. No one can personally witness Jesus performing a miracle and then attribute that power to Satan instead of the Spirit.

The unpardonable sin today is the state of continued unbelief. The Spirit currently convicts the unsaved world of sin, righteousness, and judgment (John 16:8). To resist that conviction and willfully remain unrepentant is to “blaspheme” the Spirit. There is no pardon, either in this age or in the age to come, for a person who rejects the Spirit’s promptings to trust in Jesus Christ and then dies in unbelief. The love of God is evident: “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life” (John 3:16). And the choice is clear: “Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on him” (John 3:36).
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Thanks! Great Article!

 

[studentofthemarkets]

Who the hell wants to become "one of God's own"?

ME! Jesus loves His own!

It was now just before the Passover Feast, and Jesus knew that His hour had come to leave this world and return to the Father. Having loved His own who were in the world, He loved them to the very end. John 13:1​

 

[Overnight]

ME! Jesus loves His own!

It was now just before the Passover Feast, and Jesus knew that His hour had come to leave this world and return to the Father. Having loved His own who were in the world, He loved them to the very end. John 13:1​

Well damn, I cannot compete with a quoted Bible passage, down to book, chapter and verse, because I must not think for myself. Because if it is in the Bible, and people 2000 years later sing about it with the smell of unicorns and rainbows, it MUST be true in that context.

No alternate thoughts allowed in the kingdom of God.