God in Medicine

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Forgive my ignorance and audacity to jump into this interesting thread. I really couldn't constrain myself. My question is as follows:
Why would a god/deity cover his tracks so well that mere and ignorant (faulty, if you like) mortals like us can't for certain determine his/her/it's existence and have to depend on tales handed down over the millennia? Why would he care whether anyone believed in him? Or, put differently, since when does God need our approval or belief in his existence? Unless he suffers from poor self esteem - a quality apparently very common amongst humans.
There is only one thing I'm certain of and that is that we'll all find out the answer to this discussion eventually - shame we won't be able to pass the answer on to those still alive.
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it seems especially curious since gods stated goal is to have man worship him.
 
"it seems especially curious since gods stated goal is to have man worship him."
I'm not sure if that is true. It's a "comment" recorded by someone back in history (maybe) and not necessarily god's words. Iow potential "hearsay" or conjecture to make people walk a certain path.
Geez, I hope we're not going to burn in hell for this (hell=place made up to frighten children and some adults to make them behave. Who knows?).
Daddy's boy
 
You just said it. You can't prove a negative.

So your claim that there is overwhelming evidence that God does not exist is illogical and false.

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by your reasoning all gods exist because you cant prove a negitive. that is how superstions flourish. you cant prove some kind of demon does not exist so someone somewhere will believe it is true.
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Do you really not get the point, or are you playing infant child?

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quote from zzz: "As an infant child, were you in a position to reasonably question the logic of the decision making of your parents? Were you really in a position to understand their thinking?"

Of course not.
The point is?
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Do you really not get the point, or are you playing infant child?



Well, let me see.
You are implying that we are too naive to understand god's purpose - right?
Well, if we are that naive then how could we possibly be clever enough to understand his existence or the evidence/lack of? Or should we just emulate the native tribes of some forsaken backwater and blindly believe that thunder and lightning (read god/bible/miracle cures etc.) originate from some spirit? Also, because we are human, we are faulty. Surely god would know that and forgive us accordingly. After all he did create us.
So, I'll ask again. What is your point?
daddy's boy
 
Yes, I am implying that we are not in a position to understand the mind of God.

I am not suggesting what people should believe, I am only pointing out how illogical it is for a limited being like a human being to question the reasons and motives of God.

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Do you really not get the point, or are you playing infant child?



Well, let me see.
You are implying that we are too naive to understand god's purpose - right?
Well, if we are that naive then how could we possibly be clever enough to understand his existence or the evidence/lack of? Or should we just emulate the native tribes of some forsaken backwater and blindly believe that thunder and lightning (read god/bible/miracle cures etc.) originate from some spirit?
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"Yes, I am implying that we are not in a position to understand the mind of God.

I am not suggesting what people should believe, I am only pointing out how illogical it is for a limited being like a human being to question the reasons and motives of God."

I agree. My point is that there also is no reason to blindly follow a path dictated by what other HUMANS have recorded. Again, it is impossible to prove or disprove the existence of god, but to threaten punishment for those who are uncertain or don't believe is downright silly. Just as silly as the self righteous behaviour of those who are certain that there is a god and those who are certain there's no god. By now you've probably worked out that I'm an agnostic.
Daddy's boy
 
You say there is "no reason."

Not for you perhaps, but for others they have their own good reason.

Who are you to judge what is a good reason, when you have no evidence that they are wrong in their belief systems?

Quote from daddy'sboy:

"Yes, I am implying that we are not in a position to understand the mind of God.

I am not suggesting what people should believe, I am only pointing out how illogical it is for a limited being like a human being to question the reasons and motives of God."

I agree. My point is that there also is no reason to blindly follow a path dictated by what other HUMANS have recorded. Again, it is impossible to prove or disprove the existence of god, but to threaten punishment for those who are uncertain or don't believe is downright silly. Just as silly as the self righteous behaviour of those who are certain that there is a god and those who are certain there's no god.
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"Who are you to judge what is a good reason, when you have no evidence that they are wrong in their belief systems"

Am I missing something here? Didn't I just say that I'm not judging anyone since there is no evidence either way (quote: "Again, it is impossible to prove or disprove the existence of god")? Didn't I agree with you?
Geez, give me a break chief.
Daddy's boy
 
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