God Bless Thomas and Alito

UsualName said:
Wrong. But what is true is there is no right to own a gun in the constitution. Bearing arms is totally different than owning. Owning isn’t even a synonym. But you don’t let that stop you from pulling made up rights out of your ass.
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Sure, you be right and the court be wrong on the right to privacy/abortion scam.

Let's see which one - you or the Supreme Court- ends out prevailing. Your leftie ilk are going to appeal to where now? -- The View- Chief Justice Joy Behar presiding.

Let us know how that works out Cowboy.

Ditto for the gun ruling. Looks like a lot of cases on the docket over at the View now- on appeal from the Supreme Court,

GIGGLE!!!!!!!
 
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I think it's unfortunate when you can't come
to a forum like this, supposed professionals,
and express your opinion because someone's
going to insult you if they disagree.

This is a divisive issue, but there's a right
side, and a wrong side.

Figure out which side you are on.
 
TreeFrogTrader said:
Sure, you be right and the court be wrong on the right to privacy/abortion scam.

Let's see which one - you or the Supreme Court- ends out prevailing. Your leftie ilk are going to appeal to where now? -- The View- Chief Justice Joy Behar presiding.

Let us know how that works out Cowboy.

Ditto for the gun ruling. Looks like a lot of cases on the docket over at the View now- on appeal from the Supreme Court,

GIGGLE!!!!!!!
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He wants you to get a gun library card and go borrow a gun when you want to "bear" one. What a phool.
 
TreeFrogTrader said:
Sure, you be right and the court be wrong on the right to privacy/abortion scam.

Let's see which one - you or the Supreme Court- ends out prevailing. Your leftie ilk are going to appeal to where now? -- The View- Chief Justice Joy Behar presiding.

Let us know how that works out Cowboy.

Ditto for the gun ruling. Looks like a lot of cases on the docket over at the View now- on appeal from the Supreme Court,

GIGGLE!!!!!!!
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Buy1Sell2 said:
He wants you to get a gun library card and go borrow a gun when you want to "bear" one. What a phool.
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He also forgets that the word "keep" is in the 2nd amendment along with the "bear".
 
Buy1Sell2 said:
He also forgets that the word "keep" is in the 2nd amendment along with the "bear".
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No doubt Usual Tard is in sync with the Constitutional experts over on the View. But he woefully misunderstands the intentions and disposition of the Founding Fathers toward the right to bear and possess arms just as part of daily life, and not just as part of an organized militia. For Jefferson for example, having/bearing a gun was to be early, often,and always - just a part of everyday life. A view he expressed not only in the drafting of the U.S. Constitution but also to make it part of Virginia's constitution.




"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks." - Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 19, 1785


"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to John Cartwright, 5 June 1824


"I enclose you a list of the killed, wounded, and captives of the enemy from the commencement of hostilities at Lexington in April, 1775, until November, 1777, since which there has been no event of any consequence ... I think that upon the whole it has been about one half the number lost by them, in some instances more, but in others less. This difference is ascribed to our superiority in taking aim when we fire; every soldier in our army having been intimate with his gun from his infancy."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Giovanni Fabbroni, June 8, 1778



"A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined..."
- George Washington, First Annual Address, to both House of Congress, January 8, 1790

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776


"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Stephens Smith, son-in-law of John Adams, December 20, 1787

"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776
 
TreeFrogTrader said:
No doubt Usual Tard is in sync with the Constitutional experts over on the View. But he woefully misunderstands the intentions and disposition of the Founding Fathers toward the right to bear and possess arms just as part of daily life, and not just as part of an organized militia. For Jefferson for example, having/bearing a gun was to be early, often,and always - just a part of everyday life. A view he expressed not only in the drafting of the U.S. Constitution but also to make it part of Virginia's constitution.




"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks." - Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 19, 1785


"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to John Cartwright, 5 June 1824


"I enclose you a list of the killed, wounded, and captives of the enemy from the commencement of hostilities at Lexington in April, 1775, until November, 1777, since which there has been no event of any consequence ... I think that upon the whole it has been about one half the number lost by them, in some instances more, but in others less. This difference is ascribed to our superiority in taking aim when we fire; every soldier in our army having been intimate with his gun from his infancy."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Giovanni Fabbroni, June 8, 1778



"A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined..."
- George Washington, First Annual Address, to both House of Congress, January 8, 1790

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776


"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Stephens Smith, son-in-law of John Adams, December 20, 1787

"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776
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Seems to resonate with a lot of the issues that we see today especially that last quote. Thanks for posting this.
 
TreeFrogTrader said:
Yes, the liberal justices said that they already had a position on cases that might come before the court whereas many of the conservatives said they could not commit before weighing all factors.

That is what makes the lib justices the political hacks that they are.

Speaking of lib justices, it is an inconvenient truth that Ruth Ginsberg- while sideing with the majority in Roe- acknowledged that the reasoning was sloppy and relied upon the wrong set of arguments and that the much of the abortion issue should be decided by the legislatures. There is no right to privacy in the constitution. It is something the court pulled out of its arse. And Ruthie agreed with that. Persons might have right to privacy deriving from some statutory rights but not constitutional.

“My criticism of Roe is that it seemed to have stopped the momentum on the side of change,” Ginsburg said. She would’ve preferred that abortion rights be secured more gradually, in a process that included state legislatures and the courts, she added. Ginsburg also was troubled that the focus on Roe was on a right to privacy, rather than women’s rights.

https://www.law.uchicago.edu/news/j...s-critique-roe-v-wade-during-law-school-visit
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1540387874134171649
 
TreeFrogTrader said:
No doubt Usual Tard is in sync with the Constitutional experts over on the View. But he woefully misunderstands the intentions and disposition of the Founding Fathers toward the right to bear and possess arms just as part of daily life, and not just as part of an organized militia. For Jefferson for example, having/bearing a gun was to be early, often,and always - just a part of everyday life. A view he expressed not only in the drafting of the U.S. Constitution but also to make it part of Virginia's constitution.




"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks." - Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 19, 1785


"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to John Cartwright, 5 June 1824


"I enclose you a list of the killed, wounded, and captives of the enemy from the commencement of hostilities at Lexington in April, 1775, until November, 1777, since which there has been no event of any consequence ... I think that upon the whole it has been about one half the number lost by them, in some instances more, but in others less. This difference is ascribed to our superiority in taking aim when we fire; every soldier in our army having been intimate with his gun from his infancy."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Giovanni Fabbroni, June 8, 1778



"A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined..."
- George Washington, First Annual Address, to both House of Congress, January 8, 1790

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776


"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Stephens Smith, son-in-law of John Adams, December 20, 1787

"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776
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There is no right to own a gun for individuals in the constitution. That’s a fact. And I get your side has finally imposed this long standing fallacy of individual right to own a gun on the country through the courts but it still doesn’t wipe away the 220 years of the proper meaning of 2a prior to Heller.

These Jefferson quotes don’t help your cause. If anything, the one about the state constitutions undermines your argument if you had any true historical knowledge of the second amendment. By the way the part in parentheses about (and of the United States) was not written by Jefferson. You’re spreading falsehoods with that. The rest of the quotes are innocuous and prove guns were a state by state issue at the time and through 2008.
 
Snarkhund said:
Merrick Garland has shown what kind of person he really his via his job running DOJ. A hopeless leftist political hack totally comfortable using the DOJ and FBI to attack Biden's political opponents.

Its the one instance where McConnell did the right thing and its a big one. We really dodged a bullet with this Garland jackass. He is a corrupt authoritarian.
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Merrick Garland has shown his utter bias and good thing that he was not confirmed as US Supreme Court justice. The mess extreme liberals create when you put them in high positions of power. They abuse their powers instead of upholding the laws as written. The problem with extreme liberals is they ignore the fact that they swore an oath to uphold the laws of the United States---not just those laws they agree with.
 
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