Why would there be manipulation here? ZBEAR, What are u talking about the last 3 outages happened at key points? It certainly really strange how this whole thing happened but again the market does strange things. This break in the morning looked for good and real, then when it came back the averages went through 60' 20 MA, 5'200 MA like it was butter. Technically on the basis of the 5', 15 min. and 60 min charts I would never have gone long on the rally, but the CME outage changed everything. It seems like these days anything goes intraday. BTW did you notice the CME stock which had a big run recently didn't even budge today.