Quote from Cesko:
You use the word logic a lot. So you will understand this. There is nothing logical to assume that we can prevent the "experiment" (above) . Quite the opposite we can make a safe assumption it will be going on in the future because it has been going on for eons WITH AND WITHOUT US.
All logical argumens begin with a premise, or axioms. When I made the statement, I assumed as a premise that current extremes in GW is caused by human beings, and therefore
we are running the experiment. Therefore, we can stop running it.
What fascinates me is the fact how you can easily go from making unwarranted assumptions ( how sure you feel doesn't mean a shit) (above) to logic(below). Flawed logic since there is no evidence that we cause it or can actually prevent it.
I take it as axiomatic that the current extreme GW is human forced. For me that debate is long over. Read the sentence again and you may understand why I chose the word "assume."
Regarding logic once again, since the"experiment" has been going on (regardless of humans) in the past...
The issue is not whether the Earth warms and cools through the eons. We know that, and
that experiment has been running with or without us.
The question is whether the
indesputable accelerated forcing caused by humans in the last two hundred years has reached levels that will send thousands of species, into extinction. We don't know all the harm that will come. That is the experiment we do not want to run (or at least stop running), since it is us that is at cause and not natural weather cycles.
..it cannot be proven logically we cause it (or may be able prevent it) to a major degree.
Last thing, you stating you are "sure" 90% is caused by human activity is just laughable.
Prove me wrong Nitro (logically!!), no opinions.
Logically it has already been proven in the language of science, to a certain degree of uncertainty where reasonable people accept it as fact. It
is possible that GW is not due to human beings. It is just not probable, at about 10:1 odds.
Proving it to you would cost me about $100,000 in time and travel expenses. It would require that we pour over mounds of data and study and collect tree rings, go to Antartica and collect ice samples from deep beneath, travel to places where sediments store weather patterns in the soil over eons. Etc. I simply trust that those whose jobs it is to do this work are not conspiring and lying about it to the rest of us.
So does nearly every major leader in the developed world btw, thank gawd.
nitro