exactly my point... ricter... you proved it again for me.
the "consensus" according to wikipedia --- (although again I did not see the link to the study itself... because even this statement overstates the consensus... )
"The scientific opinion on climate change is that the Earth's climate system is unequivocally warming, and it is more than 90% certain that humans are causing most of it through activities that increase concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, such as deforestation and burning fossil fuels. "
For ignorant fools like FC... let me make it clear... activities such as... deforestation (they left out cows, methane production, planting certain crops, perhaps even congregating in groups ) and burning of fossil fuels.... is not the same as saying man made co2 is cause the warming.
Take that info.. and now realize that the MET is now admitting there is no statistically signficant warming outside natural variation.
and you agw nutters have nothing...
nothing at all.
here is the link....
Quote from Ricter:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change [/QUOTE]
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however wikipedia did sneak this one in below... and this is the study... man is contributing... nothing saying it is man made co2...
and if you read the other studies in the section...
you will know plenty of other surveys contradict the idea of any real consensus.
A poll performed by Peter Doran and Maggie Kendall Zimmerman at University of Illinois at Chicago received replies from 3,146 of the 10,257 polled Earth scientists. Results were analyzed globally and by specialization. 76 out of 79 climatologists who "listed climate science as their area of expertise and who also have published more than 50% of their recent peer-reviewed papers on the subject of climate change" believed that mean global temperatures had risen compared to pre-1800s levels. Seventy-five of 77 believed that human activity is a significant factor in changing mean global temperatures. Among all respondents, 90% agreed that temperatures have risen compared to pre-1800 levels, and 82% agreed that humans significantly influence the global temperature. Economic geologists and meteorologists were among the biggest doubters, with only 47 percent and 64 percent, respectively, believing in significant human involvement. The authors summarised the findings: