Global Warming Hoaxsters Say the Ocean is Sinking

How much are we going to have to cook before the denyers realize we have global warming?

Changing growing seasons, animal migratory patterns (including birds, insects, and mammals), receding and breaking up glaciers, increased global lightning, historic photos and paintings, and witness accounts of changes in our lifetimes are all easily measurable indicators and all point to global warming.

How much responsibility industry has, the long-term enviromental effects, and possible remedies are debatable.

Is this whole denyers movement based on industry fear of being held accountable for environmental damage brought by global warming? They are certainly spending a lot of time and money on this.

Global warming is here and may be accelerating.

Do the denyers need to have their feet held to the fire on this issue?
 
jem said:
when confronted with science a data you shrink into trog.
go ahead tell us why those charts are not reasonable.
are you arguing with the proxy data?
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Like I said, the chart you posted proves that you are a liar. It's beyond intellectual dishonesty.
 
FC

I'll be buying a new winter cost before you buy another speedo.

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Arnie said:
FC

I'll be buying a new winter cost before you buy another speedo.

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That is true. I will never buy a speedo. Never have, never will. The real question is why you want to think about me in my speedo.

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That chart is in many forms all over the internet.
So its not a lie for me to post it.
If you have the science to explain why its wrong go ahead and post the link.
If you argument is sound and persuasive I will retract and never post a similar chart again. Unless I find science to confirm it.

so prove the chart is wrong.


however... the chart is starting to look better here.


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futurecurrents said:
Like I said, the chart you posted proves that you are a liar. It's beyond intellectual dishonesty.
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here is another view... and a long term chart of temps. which seems to confirm the accuracy of the chart for the last 60 million years.

By the way I now see from agw nutters the




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