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Global Warming Hoaxsters Say the Ocean is Sinking
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Oh yeah, I'm here because I'm lonely.
This point was sincere and I certainly agree with it since I am the one who made it. --- Man cannot change the Earth's climate. ---What I was referring to was your response to Tsing Tao when he/she spoke about snow and ice in LA and TX. ---By the by, just so you are aware, my posting where I indicated that I had forgotten about the weight of CO2 was a joke.
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Tsing Tao is sharp enough to know that a week or two or even years is meaningless to the Earth. He/she made a great joke which Liberals are unable to grasp now as they have surrendered all connection to sense of humor and reality. He/she demonstrated how ridiculous and changeable the Libprog climate change claims are by using their own shortsighted argument technique.
I'll be honest, I was trolling. I love these threads because its so easy to post a comment that results in futurecurrents showing up, foaming at the mouth to scream obscenities to the thread participants.
My personal view on global warming has been stated before, but here it is again: There has to be some effect that 8+ billion humans and their machinations have on the environment/ecology/atmosphere, whatever. The effect is almost definitely negative. But carbon reductions and Paris accords, and other conferences exist for one purpose - to redistribute global wealth. If all of these politicians truly believed in this, they'd actually practice what they preach in their personal lives. They don't.
That being said, there is simply no way to use 150 or 200 years of data as a sample when we're talking about 4 billion + years of planetary existence and call it "Accurate" in any fashion whatsoever.
We're heading into an ice age so the earth should be cooling, not heating up. Without this the effects would be far more dramatic.
"Man cannot change the Earth's climate." - fun to see people from the dark ages are still around. Man has changed the climate in many ways, both in controlled and accidental ways. You probably think cloud seeding is science fiction as well.
At least Tsingtao is reasonable to some extent in his convictions, although I don't agree with his convictions, why would the leaders of wealthy countries deliberately dissolve their own power? They're in it for the power, after all.
Politicians are mostly just after popularity and the ones who aren't, actually do practice what they preach. If you're talking about personal decisions, a single person determines very little, all real effects will come from legislation.
Climate "science" cannot yet accurately predict the future as has been evidenced time and again over the past 40 years of one wrong prediction after another. Extract the politics from it, and it's just a bunch of people using small segments of time trying to extrapolate that data out over future decades and centuries. Far too many variables to do that with any real accuracy. Climate changes, yes it does. That's about the only thing they're getting right.
We're in an ice age now. Remember, the Earth is ice free at it's poles much more than it is not. It was warmer 4 to 6 thousand years ago and Man was not plentiful or industrialized at that time. Common sense would tell one that we don't have any control over the Earth. We are simply along for the ride here. We just need to ride the cycles out---much like we ride out the four seasons. I see no evidence that Man has been able to alter the seasons as of yet. Perhaps we can control climate between driver side and passenger side, but even that appears to be a struggle to accomplish. ---I'll give you that.
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Trolling aside , you used their own techniques of shortsightedness to create a well played joke.----As far as 8 billion people changing climate, you're wrong about that, but I do consider your analysis of a short period of 150 to 200 years to be spot on. It's such a blip, it's meaningless.
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Bottlenecks in human population all coincide with the global glaciations that have occurred. Human population consistently expanded during warm periods. Its probably ice-ages that we should fear.
I don't think people realize the long duration of the ice-ages or the extent that the earth was transformed into a snowball.
During the last ice-age (which pretty much reset civilization) the survival zone in North America was all the way down in North Florida.
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