Global Warming Hoaxsters caught lying AGAIN

Quote from 4444CJones4444:

Where did I say increases in atmospheric co2 are not due to mankind? I'm willing to concede all extra co2 is man made, but I do find it interesting not even a 1ppm decrease in carbon dioxide was detected during the great depression's 30% decrease in co2 emissions.

Excessive CO2 doesn't rain out. It doesn't disappear. It stays in the atmosphere, floating around for decades or centuries.
 
Quote from dcraig:

You should find that scary. CO2 has a long half life in the atmosphere - maybe hundreds or even thousands of years before excess CO2 is scrubbed from the atmosphere and things return to equilibrium. It doesn't just fall out of the sky as does water vapor. No matter if CO2 emissions are cut dramatically right now, we are still stuck with excess CO2 for a long time. And the longer we leave it, the worse it gets.



1998 was a strong El Nino. CO2 is not the only thing affecting temp in the short term, but it has the most potential to change it on the average in the long term.

Should have read your post first -- your description is more extensive than my short little blurb. I just don't have the energy to bother illustrating any level of detail anymore.
 
Quote from bigdavediode:

2009 was the second hottest year on record, and solar activity was at almost the lowest point in a century. Anecdotally, that's a bit of a problem for global warming deniers.



How many times are you going to pull the same stunt? Simply saying that the Earth is warming does not prove MMGW. As noted before the Earth's climate is always warming or cooling so you have 50% of being right.

Second of all. Since you claim 2009 is the second hottest year, what year was the hottest? Since we are continuing to burn fossil fuels it means that there should have been more CO2 in the atmosphere in 2009 than during any other year. With that being the case why was 2009 not the hottest? It probably has something to do with CO2 being a LAGGING indicator.

The same questions are being asked and you continue to fail to provide a reasoned response.
 
Quote from drjekyllus:

How many times are you going to pull the same stunt? Simply saying that the Earth is warming does not prove MMGW. As noted before the Earth's climate is always warming or cooling so you have 50% of being right.

Nope. That's wrong on multiple levels. Hopefully dcraig will tell you.

Second of all. Since you claim 2009 is the second hottest year, what year was the hottest? Since we are continuing to burn fossil fuels it means that there should have been more CO2 in the atmosphere in 2009 than during any other year. With that being the case why was 2009 not the hottest? It probably has something to do with CO2 being a LAGGING indicator.

The same questions are being asked and you continue to fail to provide a reasoned response.

(Facepalm) Why wasn't 2009 the hottest? Because we don't have temperature stations for every molecule in the atmosphere. Also, there are these things called "oceans" which store and release heat throughout their massive depths.

You may have heard of "oceans" from such movies as "Oceans 11," "Pirates of the Caribbean", "Jaws II" and Disney's classic children's movie "Nemo."
 
Quote from bigdavediode:

Excessive CO2 doesn't rain out. It doesn't disappear. It stays in the atmosphere, floating around for decades or centuries.
co2 concentrations move in a curve. Seasonal variations in photosynthesis show up in this curve, even influences such as day and night can be seen. The Great Depression's 30% drop was invisible.
 
Quote from bigdavediode:

Nope. That's wrong on multiple levels. Hopefully dcraig will tell you.


It is correct on multiple levels. Neither you, nor dcraig can make any argument for MMGW that even comes close to being considered scientific proof. Once again Dave, making the the argument that it got warmer so MMGW is a valid theory is absolute rubbish.





(Facepalm) Why wasn't 2009 the hottest? Because we don't have temperature stations for every molecule in the atmosphere. Also, there are these things called "oceans" which store and release heat throughout their massive depths.


(Facepalm):confused:

Great, well why exactly would an ocean store or release more heat from one year to the next? According to your theory how does more CO2 lead to cooler temps?

BTW, I notice you are still using your computer which will cause the release of greenhouse gases. I notice you are still polluting BigDaveDiode. It highlights exactly how full of shit you are. Nicely done.
 
Quote from 4444CJones4444:

co2 concentrations move in a curve. Seasonal variations in photosynthesis show up in this curve, even influences such as day and night can be seen. The Great Depression's 30% drop was invisible.

So when you tip a balanced teeter-totter, does it immediately right itself?

Of course it doesn't. At best it will oscillate.
 
Quote from drjekyllus:

(Facepalm):confused:

Great, well why exactly would an ocean store or release more heat from one year to the next?

That is exactly what happens. Now you need to get off your duff and start reading why that is. It's been posted here a dozen times, now you have to do your own work.

According to your theory how does more CO2 lead to cooler temps?

Yeah, that sentence just came off as crazy.

BTW, I notice you are still using your computer which will cause the release of greenhouse gases. I notice you are still polluting BigDaveDiode. It highlights exactly how full of shit you are. Nicely done.

Good point:

1) There is no power except CO2 polluting power (I'm on hydro, if you're interested)

2) Because we recognize the science, we all share the same conclusions on how to solve a scientific problem.

3) If someone does anything contrary to their argument, their argument is rendered false even though actions have no bearing on the argument and the evidence itself

4) People emit any pollution have to be pro-pollution.

Given the severe analytical errors in your posts you have posted no evidence that you are able to think logically.
 
Quote from bigdavediode:

That is exactly what happens. Now you need to get off your duff and start reading why that is. It's been posted here a dozen times, now you have to do your own work.

You made the claim. The burden of proof is on you.

You seem to know, but your heroes at CRU don't seem to know.

On Oct 14, 2009, at 10:17 AM, Kevin Trenberth wrote:


" Hi Tom
How come you do not agree with a statement that says we are no where close to knowing where
energy is going or whether clouds are changing to make the planet brighter. We are not
close to balancing the energy budget. The fact that we can not account for what is
happening in the climate system makes any consideration of geoengineering quite hopeless as
we will never be able to tell if it is successful or not! It is a travesty!
Kevin"


So the fraudsters at CRU don't even claim to know, but BigDaveDiode, a failed trader posting on an internet forum from his mom's basement knows. Now we know for sure you are talking out of your ass Dave.






Yeah, that sentence just came off as crazy.

You made the assertion, not me.




Good point:

1) There is no power except CO2 polluting power (I'm on hydro, if you're interested)

2) Because we recognize the science, we all share the same conclusions on how to solve a scientific problem.

3) If someone does anything contrary to their argument, their argument is rendered false even though actions have no bearing on the argument and the evidence itself

4) People emit any pollution have to be pro-pollution.

Given the severe analytical errors in your posts you have posted no evidence that you are able to think logically.

1. So your computer was manufactured with zero CO2 emissions. There were also no emissions to get it from the factory to your home. Interesting.

2. If the science is correct, then there really is only one way to solve the problem. The solution does not include adding more CO2 to the environment which your are doing.

3. It has nothing to do with whether the are argument is correct or not. It has to do with being a hypocrite.

4. ????? I have no idea what to even make of this.



To top it off, you ignored half of my post so I will nail you on it again.

Neither you, nor dcraig can make any argument for MMGW that even comes close to being considered scientific proof. Once again Dave, making the the argument that it got warmer so MMGW is a valid theory is absolute rubbish.
 
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