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Global warming hoax
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Quote from man:
if it is as you say it truly IS a decent record. but when
someone goes too far, i'm not cowering either and tell
him ...
what about this reich thing? i try once in a while to
check if anyone seriously looked at his claims but so
far it feels like it is more or less sunk into esoterics ...
Reich was not the first to discover or investigate what he called orgone.
Every culture and language has a different name for the same energy. Same stuff, different name, packaging, and promotion.
Orgone, chi, qi, ki, life force, life energy, bio energy, od, prana, mana, psykhe, Spiritus, etc.
The whole point of mentioning Reich:
"I would like to plead for my right to investigate natural phenomena...."
I think any scientist or any individual has the right to investigate anything without interference nor punishment from those that have an opposing view.
To not allow or to discourage an opposing view is suspect.
Quote from FightTheFuture:
Reich was not the first to discover or investigate what he called orgone.
Every culture and language has a different name for the same energy. Same stuff, different name, packaging, and promotion.
Orgone, chi, qi, ki, life force, life energy, bio energy, od, prana, mana, psykhe, Spiritus, etc.
The whole point of mentioning Reich:
"I would like to plead for my right to investigate natural phenomena...."
I think any scientist or any individual has the right to investigate anything without interference nor punishment from those that have an opposing view.
To not allow or to discourage an opposing view is suspect.
excellent post... agreed.
it is really a strange situation. reich was an acclaimedQuote from FightTheFuture:
... Orgone, chi, qi, ki, life force, life energy, bio energy, od, prana, mana, psykhe, Spiritus, etc.
The whole point of mentioning Reich:
"I would like to plead for my right to investigate natural phenomena...."[/B]
psychoanalyst, moved somewhere else and got trouble
everywhere he went. really unimaginable how he could
keep going ...
in contrast to chi or prana, reich investigated within the
frame of western science. testing, validating, repeatable
experiments. just think of his oranur experiments ...
big effects that almost traumatised half of the people
around him at that time; should be verifiable.
and remember reich contacted einstein and got him quite
interested in his work until einstein decided there is
nothing in it. now, for me it is really difficult to charge
the discoverer of relativity for mainstream stubbornness.
and do not forget that around that time quantum physics
took of, a subject that has since been at least as controversial
as a possible new energy. in short, this mainstream
turned him down thing has some debateable aspects.
nevertheless, as i said, i find it hard to believe that
someone can write that conscious and precise while
being in fact mentally distorted.
or think of the cloudbustering. according to reich this
was almost sensational. and his books are available
today, so everybody could go and replicate the thing.
and literally almost everybody since there is no big tech
hurdle in any of his pieces as far as i know.
don't get me wrong. i am practising meditation and am
aware of the shortfalls of modern science. and just look
at shaolin monks if you want to see physical effects of
working with "chi". but, nevertheless, reich entered the
field from within western science and found what he
found out of western science. so there should be tons
of crazy physics students building crazy cloud busters
during their holidays ... just because it is simple and
possibly working ...
was almost sensational. and his books are available
today, so everybody could go and replicate the thing.
and literally almost everybody since there is no big tech
hurdle in any of his pieces as far as i know.
don't get me wrong. i am practising meditation and am
aware of the shortfalls of modern science. and just look
at shaolin monks if you want to see physical effects of
working with "chi". but, nevertheless, reich entered the
field from within western science and found what he
found out of western science. so there should be tons
of crazy physics students building crazy cloud busters
during their holidays ... just because it is simple and
possibly working ...
ratboy,
do you have any first hand experience with accumulators?
i considered to get one, but never followed up. what would
be interesting experiments with it? actually i think i
would get two of them, one with reich's order of cotton
and metal, the other vice versa. otherwise it is difficult
to isolate the effect to orgone i'd guess.
do you have any first hand experience with accumulators?
i considered to get one, but never followed up. what would
be interesting experiments with it? actually i think i
would get two of them, one with reich's order of cotton
and metal, the other vice versa. otherwise it is difficult
to isolate the effect to orgone i'd guess.
Quote from man:
ratboy,
do you have any first hand experience with accumulators?
i considered to get one, but never followed up. what would
be interesting experiments with it? actually i think i
would get two of them, one with reich's order of cotton
and metal, the other vice versa. otherwise it is difficult
to isolate the effect to orgone i'd guess.
no.. not my area of expertise. there are many youtube and google videos though. although most aren't labeled as such. here are those that are: http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=orgone&hl=en&sitesearch=
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About 2-3 years ago I was tempted to make some orgonite, but my list of things to do is over 16 notebook pages. Someday.
Some people are building orgone devices and using phosphorescent glow tape to observe the moving orgone produced from the orgonite in a darkened room.
I don't think physicists would be interested in researching orgone even if they knew it had positive uses. Not unless there were significant profits to be had, since orgone is essentially free. Not unless it could be used as a weapon to kill masses of people.
Researchers like Reich are easily labeled as kooks if they are not working on mainstream, acceptable ideas. It is a pop culture, you're not one of us world.
One of the greatest scientists and inventors was
Nikola Tesla. He was labeled a kook by his competitors and government. He had inventions, credit and theories stolen from him decades after he first discovered them. This lone man would have had more patents than Edison's huge team if he had not been penniless most of his life.
Both of these guys were rather eccentric, but that seems to be the case with nearly all great minds as they are not operating at the level of us "normals''.
Some people are building orgone devices and using phosphorescent glow tape to observe the moving orgone produced from the orgonite in a darkened room.
I don't think physicists would be interested in researching orgone even if they knew it had positive uses. Not unless there were significant profits to be had, since orgone is essentially free. Not unless it could be used as a weapon to kill masses of people.
Researchers like Reich are easily labeled as kooks if they are not working on mainstream, acceptable ideas. It is a pop culture, you're not one of us world.
One of the greatest scientists and inventors was
Nikola Tesla. He was labeled a kook by his competitors and government. He had inventions, credit and theories stolen from him decades after he first discovered them. This lone man would have had more patents than Edison's huge team if he had not been penniless most of his life.
Both of these guys were rather eccentric, but that seems to be the case with nearly all great minds as they are not operating at the level of us "normals''.
Quote from FightTheFuture:
About 2-3 years ago I was tempted to make some orgonite, but my list of things to do is over 16 notebook pages. Someday.
Some people are building orgone devices and using phosphorescent glow tape to observe the moving orgone produced from the orgonite in a darkened room.
I don't think physicists would be interested in researching orgone even if they knew it had positive uses. Not unless there were significant profits to be had, since orgone is essentially free. Not unless it could be used as a weapon to kill masses of people.
Researchers like Reich are easily labeled as kooks if they are not working on mainstream, acceptable ideas. It is a pop culture, you're not one of us world.
One of the greatest scientists and inventors was
Nikola Tesla. He was labeled a kook by his competitors and government. He had inventions, credit and theories stolen from him decades after he first discovered them. This lone man would have had more patents than Edison's huge team if he had not been penniless most of his life.
Both of these guys were rather eccentric, but that seems to be the case with nearly all great minds as they are not operating at the level of us "normals''.
People who push Reich's primitive ideas as "scientific truths" are kooks. Reich was one of many scientists who pondered the meaning of life. But when science was not ready then any answers suggested were at best speculative. Take a look at a more modern view of Reich's work here:
http://www.ist-signal.org/conferences/SAB02workshop/wsgrow_paper_7.pdf
It is possible that one day real science will arise out of Reich's work. But at this point it is not science.