Global warming hoax fools millions

[jem]

Quote from bigdavediode:

If you concede that CO2 absorbs energy, and you have, then adding CO2 to the atmosphere increases temperature, simple as that.

If your theory that we are coming out of a cold low (false) and are "destined" to accumulate CO2 (entirely made up) was true then we are in trouble due to increasing temperatures and we should reduce the consequences of that trend by reducing CO2 emissions.

Now you are not following logic.

you might try reading the links I sent you of the long term charts you will see we are coming off a law.

additionally you have done nothing to show CO2 causes warming,
science has shown you that warming causes CO2 accumulation. Like I suggested - if we were not warming perhaps the CO2 would be shed.

 

[bigdavediode]

Quote from jem:

Now you are not following logic.

you might try reading the links I sent you of the long term charts you will see we are coming off a law.

additionally you have done nothing to show CO2 causes warming,
science has shown you that warming causes CO2 accumulation. Like I suggested - if we were not warming perhaps the CO2 would be shed.

LOL. I have done nothing to show CO2 causes warming except given you a graph of the actual energy absorption spectrum of CO2.

To try and deny that CO2 causes warming is to deny the energy absorption spectrum of CO2. You already conceded that CO2 absorbs energy as per the graph.

If you're right, and the Earth is warming anyway, then adding man-made CO2 to it will make the Earth even hotter, and therefore CO2 reductions must be made to reduce negative consequences of warming.

Let me know if you need any of this broken down further.

 

[jem]

none of your assumptions are substantiated.

adding CO2 to the cycle could cause the warming cycle to reverse sooner... thereby preventing say the sinking of venice.

the difference between you and me is my guess is man could be causing some warming.

you side acts like it knows...

you are just a clima guesser.

 

[bigdavediode]

Quote from jem:

none of your assumptions are substantiated.

adding CO2 to the cycle could cause the warming cycle to reverse sooner... thereby preventing say the sinking of venice.

the difference between you and me is my guess is man could be causing some warming.

you side acts like it knows...

you are just a clima guesser.

LOL. Okay, how could adding a greenhouse gas, that you already conceded absorbs heat, to the a cycle of excess CO2, REDUCE heat absorption?

Say, when you add gas to your car do you get fewer miles out of it?

When you add food to your dinner plate do you lose weight?

 

[Ricter]

Quote from bigdavediode:

LOL. Okay, how could adding a greenhouse gas, that you already conceded absorbs heat, to the a cycle of excess CO2, REDUCE heat absorption?

Say, when you add gas to your car do you get fewer miles out of it?

When you add food to your dinner plate do you lose weight?

Does CO2 really absorb heat, or trap it?

 

[bigdavediode]

Quote from Ricter:

Does CO2 really absorb heat, or trap it?

It absorbs it, then re-emits it in random directions. That heat then gets taken in by another CO2 molecule, and re-emitted. The problem with that is that heat is captured in the atmosphere and thus warming of the atmosphere occurs.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from bigdavediode:

It absorbs it, then re-emits it in random directions. That heat then gets taken in by another CO2 molecule, and re-emitted. The problem with that is that heat is captured in the atmosphere and thus warming of the atmosphere occurs.

I'm thinking it's basically true that the random emission of that heat energy can travel in only one of three directions: downward, sideways, or upward. Therefore, in two of every three cases, the heat is essentially trapped. What do you think of that simplification?

 

[377OHMS]

Quote from bigdavediode:

It absorbs it, then re-emits it in random directions. That heat then gets taken in by another CO2 molecule, and re-emitted.

That is exactly right.

 

[jem]

Quote from bigdavediode:



When you add food to your dinner plate do you lose weight?

Ah I see you problem... you do not understand causation.

I may lose weight if I am running more every day and I routinely off gas or discard the excess C02 or food because I am training for MMA or some seniors golf.

And when I stop running and start trading in front of my computer I may gain weight and try to pile food on my plate and put cookies in my pantry because I am in an accumulation mode.



Note I linked to long term chart which shows we are in the cool region and are closer to the temperature low than high. So we very well could be in an accumulation mode.

 

[bigdavediode]

Quote from jem:

Ah I see you problem... you do not understand causation.

I may lose weight if I am running more every day and I routinely off gas or discard the excess C02 or food because I am training for MMA or some seniors golf.

And when I stop running and start trading in front of my computer I may gain weight and try to pile food on my plate and put cookies in my pantry because I am in an accumulation mode.

Note I linked to long term chart which shows we are in the cool region and are closer to the temperature low than high. So we very well could be in an accumulation mode.

And what do you think accumulating CO2 would mean for temperature, since you've already conceded that CO2 absorbs energy? Lower temperatures?