Global Warming Exposed Yet Again
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"War of the Worlds Radio Broadcast Causes Panic"
http://history1900s.about.com/od/1930s/a/warofworlds.htm
Sorry....couldn't resist
OK, I have a theory. Couple of facts first. We all know that the black and brown population has been growing at a tremendous rate over the past few decades. It's also well known that dark colors attract heat. Do I have to spell it out for you?:eek: 
Hey, if we're gonna' just make shit up, this is as good as anything else.
Hey, if we're gonna' just make shit up, this is as good as anything else.
Ah, it's rather amusing when it's you (Ricter) trying to engage someone. Frustrating when they don't want to answer you, isn't it?
Hey, Jem. Pull a Ricter and dodge the question entirely. Make your answer related to something about more paint on school houses in darker colors attracting more sun's rays or something.
Riddle me this Ricter...
If
1. the earth is a dynamic system which absorbs and disperses gases in various ways.... and
2. during the recorded history of the earth if warming precedes CO2 Accumulation... and cooling precedes CO2 dispersion...
what is more likely...
warming causes CO2 accumulation
or CO2 accumulation causes warming?
If
1. the earth is a dynamic system which absorbs and disperses gases in various ways.... and
2. during the recorded history of the earth if warming precedes CO2 Accumulation... and cooling precedes CO2 dispersion...
what is more likely...
warming causes CO2 accumulation
or CO2 accumulation causes warming?
I'm waiting to hear the critique of this from the pro scientists, but from what I know about tree rings is that they are the one of the least accurate proxy for temps. One problem is growth rings only occur during the summer and say nothing about winter temps. Another is that they actually show growing conditions, which along with temps includes precip, nutrients and the amount of sunshine. A further problem is that these trees were only from one area of Finland.
In any case it will not change this chart
In any case it will not change this chart
Nope, he can't answer yes or no. Basically because he's an idiot. It's an indisputable fact that CO2 is greenhouse gas. Levels of CO2 are up 35% in the last hundred years due to fossil fuel burning, and if we keep doing what we're doing we face certain catastrophe. It's really very simple.
The hockey-stick chart continues to be proven correct......
"The findings, which drew on the work of 30 researchers from six countries, analyzed lake sediment cores, glacial ice and tree-ring records and refuted the theory proposed by some skeptics that the recent warming was the result of small changes in the Earthâs axis of rotation.
Rather, it found that man-made emissions had in fact reversed a slow pattern of cooling caused by an orbital shift that began two millenniums ago.
âItâs basically saying the greenhouse gas emissions are overwhelming the system,â David Schneider, a climatologist and one of the studyâs co-authors, said at the time."
http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/23/the-hockey-stick-lives/
"The findings, which drew on the work of 30 researchers from six countries, analyzed lake sediment cores, glacial ice and tree-ring records and refuted the theory proposed by some skeptics that the recent warming was the result of small changes in the Earthâs axis of rotation.
Rather, it found that man-made emissions had in fact reversed a slow pattern of cooling caused by an orbital shift that began two millenniums ago.
âItâs basically saying the greenhouse gas emissions are overwhelming the system,â David Schneider, a climatologist and one of the studyâs co-authors, said at the time."
http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/23/the-hockey-stick-lives/
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I'm waiting to hear the critique of this from the pro scientists, but from what I know about tree rings is that they are the one of the least accurate proxy for temps. One problem is growth rings only occur during the summer and say nothing about winter temps. Another is that they actually show growing conditions, which along with temps includes precip, nutrients and the amount of sunshine. A further problem is that these trees were only from one area of Finland.
In any case it will not change this chart
The graph you posted used tree ring data as a proxy for temps in the pre-1850 era.
So you have single handedly posted a chart to support your view and at the same time have called into question the methodology used to construct said chart. Brilliant!!
As a bonus, here is a .pdf file by the author of your chart supporting the use of tree ring data. Again, just brilliant!!
http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/JCLI3564.1