So as I mentioned earlier, I think this is rather interesting and nuanced point. Personally, I am 100% on board with the X & Y strategy you describe in your other post. In the world of rates, for example, unless you do outright macro, it's imperative that you find some ways to be long some tail risk to protect the core strategies you're making money on. However, protecting your core strategies with a tail hedge and explicitly betting on an event that's perceived unlikely are very different. Again, I am suggesting that, based on his very own admissions, Kyle Bass's Japan trade belongs to the latter category.Quote from Ghost of Cutten:
No it can't turn into a costly waiting game, because you control how much you pay while you wait. If you limit the risk to what you can comfortably wait/burn, then there is no issue. And since all bubbles in history have eventually popped spectacularly, you will get paid.
Example, let's say you were early on the housing bubble and started paying 1% per annum (when Treasuries were paying 4-5% per annum) to own CDS exposure from 2003. So, your fund performance is 1% per annum worse in 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006. Then you make 100% in 2007-2008.
So, with no timing ability whatsoever, and being 4-5 years too early, and not adding to your positions at all in 2007-2008 when it became obvious the timing was right, you had a 100% gain at a risk of 4-5%. Everyone who says you need timing to profit from bubbles is utterly wrong.
The only way you can lose shorting a bubble is if you risk more than your staying power/conviction and capitulate before it pops, or if you are wrong that it's a bubble. You cannot lose by maintaining modest asymmetric positions each year until the crash occurs, even if your timing is horrible.
Finally, the timing issue is not hard anyway. You can either wait until the fundamentals start turning down, or wait until the key price drops below the 200 day moving average, or both, and only then put on your bets. This takes about 1 minute of analysis per month.
So, if you don't mind, I would like to ask about the strategy that explicitly bets on a "crash". I think it's a very interesting discussion that I am hoping will benefit me and further my understanding. However, first we need to establish some common ground. "Bubble", "crash" and "shorting a bubble" are, generally, very vague terms that need to be defined. Shall we try to narrow down in a specific context what these things actually mean? I propose to reuse the old short JGB trade, unless you want to use something else, such as Treasuries or smth.