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Quote from atticus:

Gold lost >20% peak to trough in '08 on source of funds liquidation (insert rationale).

It's not really relevant, but I think gold's 'liquidation' in 2008 is something almost everybody reads wrong. Gold actually rallied about 57% between when equities topped in '07 to March 2008 - only seven months. That's an incredible rally and IMO the subsequent decline had much more to do with this than with any correlation between gold and stocks/risk assets. During the overall period (10/07-3/09) when SPX lost 58%, gold gained 37%.
 
Quote from dhpar:

if EUR goes to hell you want to get your monies converted into DEM. The best way to assure of that is to own the German debt. DEM has a huge trade (favorable) imbalance and should get stronger compared to other EUR components - similar to what CHF would do.

i am baffled why one need 1 page of ET discussion for such a simple thought. scaling in a short swiss position is an easy trade imo...

I am sorry for your loss.
 
Quote from Specterx:

It's not really relevant, but I think gold's 'liquidation' in 2008 is something almost everybody reads wrong. Gold actually rallied about 57% between when equities topped in '07 to March 2008 - only seven months. That's an incredible rally and IMO the subsequent decline had much more to do with this than with any correlation between gold and stocks/risk assets. During the overall period (10/07-3/09) when SPX lost 58%, gold gained 37%.

I get you, but spx and gold were strongly correlated in the latter half of 2007, and gold has held well in this equity rally.
 
Quote from atticus:

I get you, but spx and gold were strongly correlated in the latter half of 2007, and gold has held well in this equity rally.

Do I read that you are expecting a repeat of late 07, 1st half of 08'?
 
Quote from atticus:
Yeah, I saw the redundancy and combined that thought, but...

Long German bills = long swiss?
Yeah, I believe that's the case, if EMU dissolution actually takes place. Obviously, there are all sorts of risks arnd this, such as the possibility that Germany switches to NewDEM, but leaves its existing bonds in EUR. However, I believe the chances of that are extremely low. So, essentially, if there is a NewDEM, German bills offer you the only possible way to get your hands on NewDEM sovereign cashflows. They're expensive for exactly that reason. Obviously, if you're happy to take the risk, you can probably get NewDEM by investing in German property (I hear Berlin is cheap) or utilities, but that's not the same thing as the govt.

As to gold, I am not an expert at all and I don't really have a particular view on what's likely to happen to it. I own some, but I don't care where it trades, 'cause I own it purely for diversification. What I am saying is that if gold trades at a price where I am happy to sell it, the world (and myself) is likely to be facing much bigger issues. I imagine it's similar for any CB, inlcuding the SNB (with the notable exception of Gordon Brown).
 
Quote from Martinghoul:

Yeah, I believe that's the case, if EMU dissolution actually takes place. Obviously, there are all sorts of risks arnd this, such as the possibility that Germany switches to NewDEM, but leaves its existing bonds in EUR. However, I believe the chances of that are extremely low. So, essentially, if there is a NewDEM, German bills offer you the only possible way to get your hands on NewDEM sovereign cashflows. They're expensive for exactly that reason. Obviously, if you're happy to take the risk, you can probably get NewDEM by investing in German property (I hear Berlin is cheap) or utilities, but that's not the same thing as the govt.

As to gold, I am not an expert at all and I don't really have a particular view on what's likely to happen to it. I own some, but I don't care where it trades, 'cause I own it purely for diversification. What I am saying is that if gold trades at a price where I am happy to sell it, the world (and myself) is likely to be facing much bigger issues. I imagine it's similar for any CB, inlcuding the SNB (with the notable exception of Gordon Brown).

OK, why not. I was only referring to the initial FX trans.
 
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