Quote from Ghost of Cutten:
IMO China is a bear point. They own lots of Euros and have been steady price-insensitive (and fundamentals-blind) buyers, propping up the exchange rate. Eventually, even dumb foreign bureaucrats are going to realise that the Euro is toast, at which point they will either i) stop buying until the price crashes (this buying strike will accelerate the decline) or ii) panic and sell out. Both are very bearish developments.
I can't think of any reasons why China would look at the Euro right now and say "You know what, it's in our strategic interests to start buying even more Euros". Once things get shaky, they will buy dollars like everyone else.
This China/Euro thing reminds me of the sovereign wealth funds in 2007 and 2008 - they were long and hopelessly wrong, but some people actually thought the market wouldn't go down just because a few tens of billions were being spunked into oblivion by clueless foreign pen-pushing apparatchiks. Since retail is an irrelevancy in FX, foreign institutional 3rd world money is the dumb money.
Quote from gmst:
GoC, those are pretty solid points, especially on the similarity with the sovereign wealth funds example, and how all of them got massacred. Market is bigger than any player, thats true even for China.
Actually, when you begin to see China dumping Euro, that will be a sight to behold and make money from. EURUSD will behave similar to the way EURCHF was behaving few months back, down 200-400 pips in an hour day after day. Will be a great profit opportunity for the nimble, if China does have to sell eventually.