Quote from Martinghoul:
As you know, Debaser, I rate neither these pundits, nor the various traders that make regularly appearances on TV... I rate economists who just report facts, without telling stories. Best example of this is someone like Bruce Kasman.
So what you think about the current situation in Belgium? Looks pretty grim to me, but I am only observing from a distance.
A government is formed last night. I guess the downgrade from last night (AA+ to AA) was finally enough to get them to agree.
Over the years country after country got it's time in the spotlight and pundits had their say on what was wrong and how it will progress.
I'd say there are 3 main reasons for people to be rightfully bearish about Belgium.
We have a historical debt load.
We have an overleveraged banking system
Our political situation is even worse then in Italy. (Today newspapers reported their ECB sources laughed at the suggestion of intervening in Belgian government paper. Sources say they are pissed as hell for these last 2 years without government...

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In contrast our deficit is a mere 4 %, an almost positive balance of trade, public wealth can match that of the Swiss, unemployment is in check, etc but I understand these facts do not change anything about the 3 big negatives.
Lastly ofcourse we can not escape the shift in balance of power that has been in place for the last years if not decades as in seeing wealth being lost in the western world in favour of other parts.
Belgium used to be a top 5 world economy 50 years ago and the state used to own 1500 tons of gold in the 80's. 200 tons of those remain.
Clearly the decline is there but these things can take a long time and no region has ever been the center of wealth creation for ever so I'm not too worried about that.
Ofcourse nobody knows this particular crisis how deep the knife will cut.
Argentina was equally a place of riches once yet 50 years later you had doctors and lawyers selling tupperware door by door.
For now we probably are a footnote in the shadow of Italy's troubles but who knows maybe we are this crisis it's Austria from the 30's.
Time will tell.