Give up my guns?

[TreeFrogTrader]

To be fair, if I understood correctly, they’re referring to open carry. Concealed is still fine, and if done properly no one would know.

True but equally true is the fact that in most states, the government is committed to making sure that you do not get a concealed carry permit. Even the so-called "shall issue" states have tricks to make it beyond your reach if you suddenly feel the need to protect yourself. You know, the statute says that the state "shall issue" but when go through the process there are regulations added to it that say you have to have lived there two years, you need to have letters of recommendation from two persons who have known you for two years and have also been residents for two year, blah, blah, blah.

And not coincidentally, the states that make it the most difficult are exactly the ones where you want to get concealed carry permit shortly after you move there.

 

[murray t turtle]

Yes, because speed limits have resulted in no speed at all.

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Exactly, autos kill so much/many more,future currents i seldom see how close i can come to infringing on the speed limit. But than again ;we have risk limits for gov + 2nd ammendment is one of them.
NOT just that; ACA is also a TrainWreck=====================================================================================,. I wish you had a sis or mom like mine ,like Annie Moses Oakly

 

[Tsing Tao]

True but equally true is the fact that in most states, the government is committed to making sure that you do not get a concealed carry permit. Even the so-called "shall issue" states have tricks to make it beyond your reach if you suddenly feel the need to protect yourself. You know, the statute says that the state "shall issue" but when go through the process there are regulations added to it that say you have to have lived there two years, you need to have letters of recommendation from two persons who have known you for two years and have also been residents for two year, blah, blah, blah.

And not coincidentally, the states that make it the most difficult are exactly the ones where you want to get concealed carry permit shortly after you move there.

I'm sorry, Frog, I disagree. Concealed Carry requires an effort, but it is a reasonable effort of checks in most states. There are some states, particularly the bastions of liberalsm like NY, NJ, MA, CT, IL, CA that are severely restrictive, but most states the process is quite attainable.

 

[piezoe]

Ah, the insults. Well here is one back for you - I'm supposed to think you're so enlightened and intellectual on this and other subjects and you've proven again and again you don't even know how to distinguish "your" from "you're".

You learn this in the third grade, for Christ's sake.

Do you have something of substance to add to the discussion?

 

[piezoe]

The fact that you do not consider them reasonable doesn't, in fact, mean that they are unreasonable.

I wanted to let you know that I agree with this statement above you posted. What makes these people I refer to unreasonable, has nothing to do with whether I consider them unreasonable, rather it has to do with my argument.

 

[piezoe]

Second, while the majority of people believe in "reasonable gun regulation", the term "reasonable" varies greatly. Stating that the "majority believe in reasonable gun regulation" is a broad stroke that has nothing to do with this particular argument. For example, I believe in reasonable gun regulation. I do not believe in banning guns. You believe you support "reasonable" gun regulation that includes banning what you call "military style weapons". So we both agree, just not about the what.

Now we are getting somewhere. You are starting to make sense! You've moved on from third grade grammar to something having to do with the discussion at hand. Well done!

 

[murray t turtle]

I'm sorry, Frog, I disagree. Concealed Carry requires an effort, but it is a reasonable effort of checks in most states. There are some states, particularly the bastions of liberalism like NJ, IL, CA that are severely restrictive, but most states the process is quite attainable.

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And really its a pattern worse than that;
they are way over spending on public pensions.NOT just over weighted on bonds which is bad enough;NJ, ILL are spending way to much/public pensions.Any 2nd or 3rd grader could see that. But since 1.7%/+ of illegal Chicago guns are imported from TX, there is the problem the mayor tweeted to US Senator Cruz.

 

[piezoe]

Now lets talk about "military style weapons" - a term which very obviously states how unfamiliar and uneducated you are on the subject. "Military style"...does that mean if a gun has the aesthetic appearance of a weapon used in the military, it is a "military style"? What constitutes "military style"? Do you even know? I'm betting you don't. Because "military style" weapons to me are fully automatic. And those are banned and illegal for sale except under highly regulated and restricted methods.

I am a bit ambivalent on this point, but personally I'd be willing to adopt the definition for military style firearms used in New Zealand for example, to wit:

Military-style semi-automatic firearms are those semi-automatic firearms known in the United States as "assault weapons". Such weapons are sometimes referred to as "military-style semi-automatic."

The qualifier "military style" is often adopted to distinguish semi-automatic fire arms that have the outward appearance of being of the the type used by military forces in contrast to those firearms typically used by sportsmen, without actually being used by military forces. One difference being that "military style" firearms are designed to operate in semi-automatic mode, whereas firearms adopted by military forces are typically designed to be capable of operating in fully automatic mode. Typical of both military style and actual military firearms is the capability of being fitted with large capacity magazines.

If you want to know more, just let me know. I am happy to oblige.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

I am a bit ambivalent on this point, but personally I'd be willing to adopt the definition for military style firearms used in New Zealand for example, to wit:

Military-style semi-automatic firearms are those semi-automatic firearms known in the United States as "assault weapons". Such weapons are sometimes referred to as "military-style semi-automatic."

The qualifier "military style" is often adopted to distinguish semi-automatic fire arms that have the outward appearance of being of the the type used by military forces in contrast to those firearms typically used by sportsmen, without actually being used by military forces. One difference being that "military style" firearms are designed to operate in semi-automatic mode, whereas firearms adopted by military forces are typically designed to be capable of operating in fully automatic mode. Typical of both military style and actual military firearms is the capability of being fitted with large capacity magazines.

If you want to know more, just let me know. I am happy to oblige.

Peizoe the Google warrior.

But never owned or fired a gun.

 

[futurecurrents]

And banning drugs has resulted in no drug use, right dopey?

It's reduced drug use....dopey. Just like gun control would reduce- not eliminate - gun violence. Only a retarded gun nut doesn't understand this. The US is done listening to retarded paranoid irrational gun nuts. You get the respect you deserve. None.