Getting out of jury duty for not being "of sound mind and good moral character" ?

[Lucrum]

Quote from RCG Trader:

Comparing military service to jury duty??

Is a tour in the military as a cook in the Pentagon the same thing as a tour as a combat infantrymen in Afghanistan?

I think you're trying to make the "comparison" too literal.
They're talking about a principle of civic duty and how some are making huge sacrifices while others won't inconvenience themselves even a little to serve when needed, whilst using petty excuses to justify it.

 

[denner]

Quote from Eight:

Btw, one of the big perks in not registering to vote is that you don't get called for JD too... and one of the big perks to not fighting in a foreign war is that you don't get your limbs blown off.. just a little word to the wise... why do people want to get their limbs blown off and then come back to the US and suck up public health monies for the rest of their lives? Stay out of that shit and save the public health monies for when you are old and really could use it, jeez, it all seems so obvious to me...

AK made a good point, he says his income is seasonal, why could we not tell the court system what the best season is for us to serve JD? You can't tell me that back in the day when everybody was farming that they had some bullshit trial when it was harvest time! You know that they did not do that for sure, they would have hung the damned judge that pulled that shit..

The part about not registering to vote and getting out of the jury pool has changed in recent years. I verified this and it appears many states now draw names from the Secretary of State or DMV as registered drivers.

It's more than likely a state by state issue and those states with greater demand for juries (i.e. favorable states for lawsuits) typically will need to go beyond the registered voter list.

 

[Trader666]

I'd add that military sacrifice is voluntary while jury duty is supposed to be compulsory, yet shirkers find ways to avoid it. Which makes the original point even stronger.

Maybe RCG doesn't get it because he's a shirker.

Quote from Lucrum:

They're talking about a principle of civic duty and how some are making huge sacrifices while others won't inconvenience themselves even a little to serve when needed, whilst using petty excuses to justify it.

 

[Artful D0dger]

Of course, just posting the threads themselves wouldn't make your case very well, so you dishonestly make your own addition to them. You put (youths=blacks) in all those posts. It's now how I wrote them.

In any case, all of them are factual. Unlike most of the MSM garbage, it's not spin, it's actually factual.

Yes, I have made threads on the horrible consequences of the policies now called "diversity" and "multiculturalism" and those too, are factually valid. People don't want to be "multicultural". Not just white people, but minorities too. That's why the more racially diverse a university is, the more students are self segregated. Same with neighborhoods and communities: people seek to surround themselves, for the most part, with people like themselves. People overwhelmingly want to live in communities and participate in organizations with people like themselves. People identify with and relate more to people like themselves, which they share more in common with. That's why when lots of blacks or lots of hispanics move into a given area, all the whites leave. When blacks or hispanics do well financially, they move to middle or upper class black or hispanic neighborhoods, if they exist. When white people are poor, they don't move into black or hispanic ghettos, they move into poor white areas or trailer parks. People, regardless of financial status, generally prefer to live amongst their own ethnic group. They also care about and have more affinity towards their own ethnic group than other groups. This does not mean that they hate other groups. It's the most natural thing in the world, is a very organic tendency, and has nothing to do with "racism".

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

First you make thread after thread telling us how bad blacks,hispanics,diversity and multiculturalism is...then you offer solutions on how to get rid of them LOL !!!





http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=219733

More thuggery from Mexican radical group "The Race"/La Raza


http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=221361

Shocking: All Rapes in Oslo Committed By "Non-Western Men" The Reality of Diversity

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=221672

Racial violence ("flash mobs") have not made into the conversation about race ("flash mobs" = blacks)


http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=221673

Group of transvestite "youths" organize flash mob to terrorize Dunkin' Doughnuts(youths=blacks)

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=221808

Another "flash mob" incident- belligerents all appear to be "youths".(youths=blacks)



http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=221817

Latino Gangs Ethnically Cleansing Blacks


http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=222030

Group of Chicago "youths" strike again- Billie Corgan's brother attacked for ipod(youths=blacks)




http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=220023

More benefits of diversity- US Anthem booed at soccer game full of Mexicans in the US

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=221859

Less diversity = more happiness study says

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=221868

Multiculturalism and the Demolition of Man














After repeatedly telling us how bad blacks,hispanics,diversity and multiculturalism is you suggest some ways to get rid of them

 

[Max E.]

LOL, so the same guy who is a die hard liberal, and wants higher taxes on high income earners, calls jury duty slavery?

And what exactly is it when a persons labor is taken by force via confiscation of their money through taxes, and just given to someone else? I spend half the year being a slave to people who get my wealth redistributed to them, and dont lift a finger to get it off me, except every 4 years when they pull the lever for a democrat.

Its funny how your back gets up against the wall when its YOUR MONEY, as opposed to the government taking someone elses.

Or is this just another stupid contradiction like when you said you were a Ron Paul supporter, but want a real far left democrat running the country

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

I vote , I pay taxes,I am a law abiding citizen

Taking a persons labor by force /without just compensation is slavery

 

[Maverick74]

Quote from Max E. Pad:

LOL, so the same guy who is a die hard liberal, and wants higher taxes on high income earners, calls jury duty slavery?

And what exactly is it when a persons labor is taken by force via confiscation of their money through taxes, and just given to someone else? I spend half the year being a slave to people who get my wealth redistributed to them, and dont lift a finger to get it off me, except every 4 years when they pull the lever for a democrat.

Its funny how your back gets up against the wall when its YOUR MONEY, as opposed to the government taking someone elses.

Or is this just another stupid contradiction like when you said you were a Ron Paul supporter, but want a real far left democrat running the country

You know what's funny. The liberals bitch a lot about our court system. How the courts stole the election for Bush in 2000. How the courts turned down gay marriage or whatever other issue they bitch about. Then when they actually get a chance to sit in a court and make sure justice prevails, they want no part of it. Yet the next day the courts will make another decision they don't like and they start bitching again.

Here's the deal guys. You want change? You have to participate. Stop screaming at Bush, Glen Beck, Fox news, etc. Start voting. Not just in the presidential elections, all the elections. Vote for mayor, alderman, school boards, everything. When you get asked to sit on a jury, do it! When you get asked by a public official for opinion on something, give it! Go to town halls. Get involved!

This country is not going to change itself. Stop shouting at the rain. Stop shouting at the TV or the AM Radio. Do something!

Don't lecture me about losing a day of work. For the first time in your life you might actually be able to make a difference in somebody's life. Obama can't help you. Only your fellow man can. And you are going to get his back because if you were on the stand, he would get yours. The government can't save you or protect you. Our jury system of justice is about the closest thing we have to fairness in this country. Don't squander it!

“I consider trial by jury as the only anchor ever yet imagined by man, by which a government can be held to the principles of its constitution.”

Thomas Jefferson

 

[Max E.]

Well said.... and Id also add that the same guy (Range Rover) who has used the line "the rich need to pay their fair share" is comlpetely unwilling to spend even 1 day of his life doing something for someonme else. The hypoceiay is stunning once again.

Quote from Maverick74:

You know what's funny. The liberals bitch a lot about our court system. How the courts stole the election for Bush in 2000. How the courts turned down gay marriage or whatever other issue they bitch about. Then when they actually get a chance to sit in a court and make sure justice prevails, they want no part of it. Yet the next day the courts will make another decision they don't like and they start bitching again.

Here's the deal guys. You want change? You have to participate. Stop screaming at Bush, Glen Beck, Fox news, etc. Start voting. Not just in the presidential elections, all the elections. Vote for mayor, alderman, school boards, everything. When you get asked to sit on a jury, do it! When you get asked by a public official for opinion on something, give it! Go to town halls. Get involved!

This country is not going to change itself. Stop shouting at the rain. Stop shouting at the TV or the AM Radio. Do something!

Don't lecture me about losing a day of work. For the first time in your life you might actually be able to make a difference in somebody's life. Obama can't help you. Only your fellow man can. And you are going to get his back because if you were on the stand, he would get yours. The government can't save you or protect you. Our jury system of justice is about the closest thing we have to fairness in this country. Don't squander it!

“I consider trial by jury as the only anchor ever yet imagined by man, by which a government can be held to the principles of its constitution.”

Thomas Jefferson

 

[Eight]

Quote from bigarrow:

I know people where I live who were let out of jury duty for financial reasons. I've been out of state working and told them I wouldn't be able to show up and they let me out. And I've been out of town working and didn't get my mail and didn't show up and nothing happened.

I knew a guy that lived near a county line. He got his mail at a POB in the next county, when they called him for jury duty he told them he didn't live in their county and he got off.... The DMV in California is a little more sophisticated than the voter thingy, their database recognized it when I used a commercial pob for my address and wouldn't let me use it for my residence but it probably will be decades before the rest of the public sector catches up with that...

 

[RCG Trader]

Quote from Maverick74:

You know what's funny. The liberals bitch a lot about our court system. How the courts stole the election for Bush in 2000. How the courts turned down gay marriage or whatever other issue they bitch about. Then when they actually get a chance to sit in a court and make sure justice prevails, they want no part of it. Yet the next day the courts will make another decision they don't like and they start bitching again.

Here's the deal guys. You want change? You have to participate. Stop screaming at Bush, Glen Beck, Fox news, etc. Start voting. Not just in the presidential elections, all the elections. Vote for mayor, alderman, school boards, everything. When you get asked to sit on a jury, do it! When you get asked by a public official for opinion on something, give it! Go to town halls. Get involved!

This country is not going to change itself. Stop shouting at the rain. Stop shouting at the TV or the AM Radio. Do something!

Don't lecture me about losing a day of work. For the first time in your life you might actually be able to make a difference in somebody's life. Obama can't help you. Only your fellow man can. And you are going to get his back because if you were on the stand, he would get yours. The government can't save you or protect you. Our jury system of justice is about the closest thing we have to fairness in this country. Don't squander it!

“I consider trial by jury as the only anchor ever yet imagined by man, by which a government can be held to the principles of its constitution.”

Thomas Jefferson

Umm talk radio is the prime mover when it comes to bitching, and we both know who talk radio is dominated by, by a very wide margin. There is also a reason why nobody watches MSNBC, prolly because it's target audience have other things to do. When I hear talk of the country being in the shitter, it is not from a liberal in most cases.

 

[RCG Trader]

Quote from Trader666:

Drop the phony bravado. AGAIN, this was the comparison. Explain why it's offensive. You can't because it's not and you have nothing.

How goddam hard is to just do your f*cking duty as an American? We have men and women serving this country over seas getting their limbs blown off and yet dipshits on here can't take a day out of their life to serve their country in an air conditioned court house.

Bravado is the first thing you drop if you have ever actually put yourself in harm's way. Knowing now that you never have, don't worry about it, drive on