Getting down and dirty is where the rubber meets the road ...

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I have tried to do quick carry over with dkm's chart. But it seems difficult to construct a carry-over trading fractal container with the prior day's bars available on the chart. :mad:

Here's some blank charts if that's the problem. One with a few bars for carry over, one with the previous 1/2 day, and one of several days for perspective.
 

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ES 05/3
dashed containers - faster fractals
black/red - trading fractals
magenta / blue - slower fractals

Several occasions where I was unsure whether or not I should be fanning the faster fractal rtl or drawing a Trading Fractal RTL (e.g. bars 30 to 34) or whether or not I had an accelerated slow RTL.

Having annotated a TF FTT at bar 54, we subsequently get a new FTT at bar 61 and also at bar 66. I can imagine this would cause some confusion in real time as to which FTT was the one to act upon. Fractal "jumping" is probably the problem but until I can recognize clearly and consistently which bars belong on which fractal, and why, I suspect that this will remain a problem.

Still confused about the practical application of clean page 1 and 4. I understand the principles of both but applying it in real time (or indeed at EOD) is another matter. Rubber not yet contacting road in a clear consistent unambiguous manner. A step-by-step "this is why" bar by bar analysis would help many I am sure. Meanwhile - onwards with a new day.
 

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Not sure if TF1 and TF2 are on the same fractal level. I accelerated TF1 RTL from bar 81 to bar 7 but TF2 would have started on bar 9 and that was clearly incorrect. Not sure if I'm still in TF1 or we are building TF3. The continuing problem of knowing what fractal level one is on..... and where is the slow RTL?
 

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