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Quote from jack hershey:

critique.

doing carry over from day to day is important. the platform you use allows for automatic degapping and that is a time saver as long as you carry over the three parallelograms.

Drill

1. Practise manual carryovers to be sure to create a set of carry over rules for annotating the chart. Do not worry about getting in on the first bar. We will soon see how adding contracts from profits starting at a mimimum level gets a person to a good income level in a short while.

You started the day inthree patterns that were carried over from the prior day.

Thank you ---I'll get to work.

Drills.

1. Set up a log that has three colums adjacent to each other so you can list the oderof events for each fractal.

2. Check always as you log that you are not "jumping fractals" as you log.

3. When posting glance to see if you are noting the order of events correctly after you finsh the typing.

You can build very comprehensively on you MADA efforts.

Bar 1 and bar 2 form a hitch on your chart. The bars show the range of volatility that can come from the range of volume.

drill.

1. At the top of your log write in the fractal event that begins the day on all three columns. The correct logging is the debriefing status at the end of the prior day.

On the trading fractal you were in a R2R of a short pattern on the trading fractal pattern. On the fast fractal you were completing a 2r of a r2r 2b 2r. You are not annotaing the fast fractal.

Drill

1. Learn to annotate the fastest observable fractal and set the scale on your chart so that 2 points is the scaling set of values. Always set your chart height to show 18 points on the 5 minute price chart. this is a biblical setting for the scaling. By keeping it scaled the same way ALL of the time, your mind becomes calibrated to market bar volatility and the slope of the parallelograms. you can see easily each tick change if and when one occurs.


So you are following the order of events beginning on the trading fractal and not following the ordr of events on the fast fractal. Above I eliminate those considerations.

This means you can see the pattern on the fast fractal as you trade the trading fractal. The day starts with the first move of the trading fractal being completed. Those trading on the trading fractal enter the opening moments short and they look for th order of events to show the 2B and then the @R of the trading fractal. This is six moves on the fast fractal.

Red volume is dominant through this period. Black volume is non dominant.

drill.

1. build fractals from the observable forming pattern; you have the time to do this and log it too.

2. Always check to see if you are jumping fractals starting with column shifts in your log. No column shifts + No fractal jumping.

3. go back to bar 71 of prior day and notice for what you annotated you missed the VE on th trading fractal. The automatic lateral annotation informs you taht you will be exiting the lateral and you used the correct FTT (not annotated) to begin the short trading fractal and all faster fractals.

4. your internal annotaor has a flaw; it missed the last stick. the flaw has to do with how the stich gets mutated from the beginning of the second internal bar. Check to see if the volume criterai is inclusive enough as well.

5. bar 81 was an OB that was automated automatically this ended the fast fractal ftt at the top and gave you a portion of the following 2b on a fast fractal level. you debrief and note you are finishing 2b. since none of this is annotaed you are hanging out in the breeze.

FTT of the trading fractal is on bar 2 where you treat all internal cases as one bar only. the dashed lines you drew is the slow fractal that contains the trading fractals; this makes bar 2 point 2 on the slow fractal.

The green arrow is a VE on the trading fractal levle and you could not observe the fast fractal over the three black bars. You when long on bar two using the trading fractal. for ES we simply zip over to the YM to observe the fast fractal three moves. By logging the YM 2 minute, you always have a leading indicator of ES rolling, since the YM leads the ES.

drill

1. log and annotate the YM 2 min chart. Put this column on your log next to the fast fractal ES column. the entries will nearly always match. divide the YM column mannually when a sub sub fractal is evident on the YM.

Bar 4 begins an R@R 2B 2R trading fractal.
this means on the trading fractal level you took a short, then a long and then you went short @ the VE of the bar 4 and you were looking for point 2 and not a M1 and M2. Here we deal with granularity. you consider and log whther the close is in the "zone". Either way you are short going to point 2 of the trading fractal. If I am knocking off 40 trades a day, I go for dealing with a possible M1 and M2. you have another internal yellow box annotation failure at this point as well. you did not get a sym on bar 4-5.

A major clue on M1 and M@ is the non dom and dom sequence. you SEE the RTL being broken and the dom is now red volume so you know that you know the short is under way and you are short. you know that you know it will be several bars before an FTT occurs. Have a smoke or just do housekeeping. Put a new eraser on your automatic HB pencil or check the remaining lead length.

Make a note to reload your library as well.

I skip to bars 9 and 10 so I can deal with the two consecutive VE's on the chort trading fractal. note that the second VE is very soon in the bar (10) and note you have decreasing volume. this is a IBGS for sure and you take profits and go long. you leave the zone post haste.

you then sit around for over an hour makin bacon.

congratulations, you are now one level of skill higher in your trading. you can take a break at close and come back in 2 1/2 hours and trade the K200 to finish out your day.
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Thank you!!!!
 
Jack,

I added those yellow boxes to the chart. Btw. that's a five minute chart of the K200 that polford posted before. It is only the beginning of the day zoomed in because it allows to better focus on specific areas.

You say "treat bars that are internals as one bar". Reading it most people would think "Aahh.. no problem. I understand." But if you think about it, what does it REALLY mean? Does it have a meaning to the trend lines you draw? Like for example draw the trend line from the last bar of the yellow box. Or draw it from the first bar of the box? Or maybe it means nothing at all to trend lines? What about volume? What does "treat it as one bar" mean to the gaussian lines you draw? Do you for example treat the first bar of a Sym as a peak and the internal bar volume as a through? Or do you just ignore the volume of the internal bar of that sym?

Such a simple statement but in fact very tricky if you don't know what exactly it means and why you would do it anyway.

You also said "see how they overlap". Well... they only seldom overlap. Is that important?

For the moment I will wait with the next part of that chart until I'm sure I have the basics covered in this part of the chart.

Thanks.




Quote from jack hershey:

treat bars that are internals as one bar.

do annotations accrdingly.

the first 8 bars are: sym FTP, FBP, and sym as taken as pairs of bars.

It is worde if you do the adjacent bars out to bar 8.

look at bars 1-2, 2-3, 3-4, 4-5, 5-6, 6-7 and 7-8.

this introduces translation, stiches and OB's in between the fist mentioned set of pairs going to bar 8.

Drill.

1. draw boxes and see how the boxes overlap.

2. learn to treat yellow boxes as one bar instead of two bars.

Your result will be a major break though in following the market.

I am not sure these are five minute bars since you do not have time on the horizontal axis.

the fist step in trading is to be able to see the market.

If you copy the boot camp of past years with NEOXX, you get 1,938 printed pages to put in a 3 ring binder to go through. For k200, we want to compress that trip.
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Quote from frenchfry:

Jack,

I added those yellow boxes to the chart. Btw. that's a five minute chart of the K200 that polford posted before. It is only the beginning of the day zoomed in because it allows to better focus on specific areas.

You say "treat bars that are internals as one bar". Reading it most people would think "Aahh.. no problem. I understand." But if you think about it, what does it REALLY mean? Does it have a meaning to the trend lines you draw? Like for example draw the trend line from the last bar of the yellow box. Or draw it from the first bar of the box? Or maybe it means nothing at all to trend lines? What about volume? What does "treat it as one bar" mean to the gaussian lines you draw? Do you for example treat the first bar of a Sym as a peak and the internal bar volume as a through? Or do you just ignore the volume of the internal bar of that sym?

Such a simple statement but in fact very tricky if you don't know what exactly it means and why you would do it anyway.

You also said "see how they overlap". Well... they only seldom overlap. Is that important?

For the moment I will wait with the next part of that chart until I'm sure I have the basics covered in this part of the chart.

Thanks.
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You post is very cool. you cover the thought process involved when a pair of bars is merged to become one equivalent bar. This ten minute period perfoms as a single 5 minute bar. This makes the time pass half as fast in terms of the order of events unfolding.

We can look at the characteristics of a bar. It has four values commonly used to define its parameters: O, H, L, C. When an internal pair is considered they behave as one bar having its O, H, L and C.

Drill

1. Look at the cases and set up a rules set for determining the O, H,L and C for each case.

2. Go through 100 internals as find the O, H, L and C for each of the 100 internals.

3. repeat 2. and include the OHLC in the fast fractal pattern annotation.

4. review the Wait decision characteristics of D of MADA with respect to the100 internal applications in the fast fractal.

5. review the Hold decision characteristics of D of mada with respect to the 100 applications in the fast frctal.

6. Use the volatility PACE matrix to locate where the various cases occur by using a print of the matrix to shade each case for 50 examples of each case. Do not mix cases when you are shading. Use a separate sheet for each case and date and intial it with the period of days that were used to get the shaded region.

7. analyze each sheet using a separate analysis sheet. Note how you recorded the second and following occurrances in each cell.

8. use excel to produce a 3d distribution of the data results.

9. code up an ATS to do 1600 bars of the process of drills 6. 7. and 8.

10. repeat steps 6, 7, 8, and 9 for the overlap PACE matrix.

11. compare the basic 1600 bar matricies with the set of internal matricies you have determined.

12. determine from all of the above how translation in the patterns on all three fractals plays a role to make money.

Later we will build additional information characterisitcs to begin to define how making money works in these periods of time (internals OR transalation. What you learn from this brief effort is that trading is a smooth operation and there is plenty of time to get the job of MADA done.

you probably also noice there is no noise in trading during the time of internals or taimes of translation. where does noise go if it is part of a person mind's inference? Nowhere. But the noise cponcept os more and more blocked as a possible concept involved in market analysis.

reread the Lo pattern research paper. notice the intial intellectual error made there. Hi lite the name of the math analysis used to eliminate ONE THIRD of the total bars examined BEFORE pattern analysis was examined. Notice there is no explanation of the "gaps" in price that occurred as a result of the intellectual error.

finally note that your work on the cases and the illustrations that result, far surpass the work being done at MIT using probabilistics types of mathematics.

Also note the impact of the PACE/ volatility matrix on talontrader's thread. He suggested that he would look at the illustration given to him by taking a week to review it. What happens when a propabilitsitic oriented person "gets the message" of the relationship of Pace and volatility? In games sometimes there are penalties; the penalty here is called going back to square one.

The conclusion that is reached when the 10 formations examined by Lo are reviewed interms of cases and patterns in nested fractals is that all formations can be described in terms of the PATTERN in which the cases are located and handled. Corrolary: Zero noise filtering is ever required in formation analysis.

So in this thread we step out to the cutting edge of market analysis and use a comprehensive paradigm for that analysis. PVT has a sharpe ratio of over 60, for example. The SCT sharpe ratio is greater. We will use a multiple of the ATR to characterize trading SCT under various market contexts.

This is an example of how the whatm where, why, when and how of the markets and the trader's built inference is introduced. All of this gives the trader theability to read and sort through the financial research of the industry and academia. A lot of the government funding comes from places like NSF. the people who doill out the grant appear to be totally in the dark as we will be begin to see by this deductive process of learning here.

Do not worry about the initial challenge of combining two bars when an internal occurs. as you see drills make it an automatic and permanent long term memory process.

readers of this thread should try to capture the meaning of being earnest.

This is to trading as the Mars Rover is to the research teams here in Tucson. Of coure we have dune and desert buggies here to play with.

Adjacent bars are coming into view. there are only 9 cases. Just nine cases.

we only have one pattern to deal with.

the fractals are nested and interlocking.

we have MADA to replace OODA to get probability and betting off thepicture. there are no longer targets and stop requirements.

what is left is to delve into acceleration, extension and fanning.
 
Quote from AllenW:

Yes---it did get turned off---thanks!
Does the pennant and the IBGS reset the context?
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Thanks for doing the maintenance on your display. I appreciate it.

we want to keep taking little things off the table so we can bear down as earnestly as possible.
 
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see if you can convert this to a file that is usable on paint or explain to me how I can make use of it in paint.


A pdf file is sort of hard to handle and put into folders that are related to things like pictures and illustrations.

I just have to ask at this point, do you have a colored printer?

I wanted to explain to you in detail the first eight bars in teermsof graphics. The pdf file is a handicap for me to overcome.

I want to move ahead as soon as we uncover the missing understanding of the rudiments of how displays contain information.

i will snag other charts from other people if you have reservations about your charts being used in paint.
 
here is a chart that shows the internals on k200.

It is from the "nesting fractals" thread.

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Paint? Ouch... :-)

Here is the file again as PNG. In this version after I read your last post I added the dashed gaussian lines. That's what my mind created of that post. The others where there in my first version.
 
I will work on using charts from other threads.

This is a series of posts showing how annotating works.

I begin at an arbitrary place to be able to nail down acceration and fanning in one series of bars.

Below you see three bars used to obtain two moves on the observable fast fractal. the line wirght is fine and it is colored according to the movement. we are looking for the third movement on the fast fractal.

You can see that points 1, 2, and 3 are there for the trading fractal.

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