It's not just some fear-mongering, apocalyptic scenario; it's real, and it will be visiting other brokerage firms and financial institutions, many of which may be at a place near you.
The same type of rumors that enveloped Bear Stearns, while Schwartz was claiming all was well (and as S3 had been yanking 25 billion from BSC for a few months, according to the WSJ http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aYZCGOSAg8jQ&refer=home), are now circulating regarding Lehman and others:
S3 Partners Pulled $25 Billion From Bear Stearns, WSJ Says
By Nicholas Larkin
March 15 (Bloomberg) -- S3 Partners LLC moved $25 billion of clients' assets from Bear Stearns Cos. to other brokers in the past three months, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing S3 managing partner Robert Sloan.
Renaissance Technologies Corp., which oversees more than $30 billion, also shifted its assets from Bear Stearns to other Wall Street rivals in the past week, the newspaper said, citing unnamed people close to the matter. The report didn't give a figure.
Debt investors yesterday also became ``more cautious'' about Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc., with the cost of five-year credit-default protection on Lehman's debt rising to $450,000 annually for every $10 million in debt, up from $395,000 the previous day, the Journal said.
Investors wanting to buy this protection on Bear Stearn's debt at one point had to pay as much as $1.1 million upfront to sellers and agree to pay $500,000 annually for five years for the insurance, the newspaper said.
Do you think it ends there? Not a chance.
Much of the damage to date has been fostered by deteriorating residential, mortgage-backed security issues.
Now, commercial real estate looks as the inevitable next shoe to drop:
The re-emergence of the MAC clause comes as 10-year fixed conduit spreads for commercial mortgage-backed securities -- one measure of the cost of commercial real estate lending -- more than tripled to 291 basis points since November, according to data compiled by New York-based Morgan Stanley, the second-biggest U.S. securities firm by market value.
After two hedge funds run by New York-based Bear Stearns Cos. collapsed last July, resulting in $1.9 billion of writedowns in the fiscal fourth quarter, demand for mortgage-backed securities dried up, sending a chill through the credit markets.
No Market
The thaw still hasn't come, said William Fryer, partner and head of the real estate capital markets practice group at the King & Spalding law firm in Atlanta.
``The market is largely shut down,'' Fryer said.
CBRE Realty Finance Inc., an indirect unit of CB Richard Ellis Group Inc., the world's largest commercial real estate broker, took a charge of $19.2 million in the fourth quarter for loans made to New York City developer Harry Macklowe. It hired Goldman Sachs Group Inc. to carry out a strategic review.
Moody's Investors Service, the New York-based bond-rating company, expects commercial real estate values to decline by as much as 20 percent over the next few years, erasing the gains of the last two years.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=aIGRziUnaXjE&refer=home
On top of it all, despite S&Ps recent, vague proclamation (where's the data, S&P; show us the beef) that the subprime mortgage writedowns are nearing an end, the insurance industry appears awfully close to basically decimating whatever little credibility S&P has left with their own, carefully honed projections (remember, the numbers the insurers are reporting are not the full extent of the writedowns, but only their losses to date in the wake of the subprime mortgage calamity:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=azT_a4VrTn.0&refer=home
``This is a bigger event than Katrina,'' said Robert Haines, an insurance analyst at New York-based CreditSights Inc. ``This is a much more unprecedented event.''
After Katrina, companies including Northbrook, Illinois- based Allstate Corp., the largest publicly traded U.S. home insurer, raised rates in disaster-prone areas, bolstering their balance sheets and stock prices. Now, insurers are stuck holding mortgage-related investments in a market where there are so few buyers that it's hard to know what those assets are worth.
Unquantifiable Losses
AIG, Ambac Financial Group Inc. and MBIA Inc. have reported the biggest markdowns tied to the mortgage markets....
The same type of rumors that enveloped Bear Stearns, while Schwartz was claiming all was well (and as S3 had been yanking 25 billion from BSC for a few months, according to the WSJ http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aYZCGOSAg8jQ&refer=home), are now circulating regarding Lehman and others:
S3 Partners Pulled $25 Billion From Bear Stearns, WSJ Says
By Nicholas Larkin
March 15 (Bloomberg) -- S3 Partners LLC moved $25 billion of clients' assets from Bear Stearns Cos. to other brokers in the past three months, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing S3 managing partner Robert Sloan.
Renaissance Technologies Corp., which oversees more than $30 billion, also shifted its assets from Bear Stearns to other Wall Street rivals in the past week, the newspaper said, citing unnamed people close to the matter. The report didn't give a figure.
Debt investors yesterday also became ``more cautious'' about Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc., with the cost of five-year credit-default protection on Lehman's debt rising to $450,000 annually for every $10 million in debt, up from $395,000 the previous day, the Journal said.
Investors wanting to buy this protection on Bear Stearn's debt at one point had to pay as much as $1.1 million upfront to sellers and agree to pay $500,000 annually for five years for the insurance, the newspaper said.
Do you think it ends there? Not a chance.
Much of the damage to date has been fostered by deteriorating residential, mortgage-backed security issues.
Now, commercial real estate looks as the inevitable next shoe to drop:
The re-emergence of the MAC clause comes as 10-year fixed conduit spreads for commercial mortgage-backed securities -- one measure of the cost of commercial real estate lending -- more than tripled to 291 basis points since November, according to data compiled by New York-based Morgan Stanley, the second-biggest U.S. securities firm by market value.
After two hedge funds run by New York-based Bear Stearns Cos. collapsed last July, resulting in $1.9 billion of writedowns in the fiscal fourth quarter, demand for mortgage-backed securities dried up, sending a chill through the credit markets.
No Market
The thaw still hasn't come, said William Fryer, partner and head of the real estate capital markets practice group at the King & Spalding law firm in Atlanta.
``The market is largely shut down,'' Fryer said.
CBRE Realty Finance Inc., an indirect unit of CB Richard Ellis Group Inc., the world's largest commercial real estate broker, took a charge of $19.2 million in the fourth quarter for loans made to New York City developer Harry Macklowe. It hired Goldman Sachs Group Inc. to carry out a strategic review.
Moody's Investors Service, the New York-based bond-rating company, expects commercial real estate values to decline by as much as 20 percent over the next few years, erasing the gains of the last two years.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=aIGRziUnaXjE&refer=home
On top of it all, despite S&Ps recent, vague proclamation (where's the data, S&P; show us the beef) that the subprime mortgage writedowns are nearing an end, the insurance industry appears awfully close to basically decimating whatever little credibility S&P has left with their own, carefully honed projections (remember, the numbers the insurers are reporting are not the full extent of the writedowns, but only their losses to date in the wake of the subprime mortgage calamity:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=azT_a4VrTn.0&refer=home
``This is a bigger event than Katrina,'' said Robert Haines, an insurance analyst at New York-based CreditSights Inc. ``This is a much more unprecedented event.''
After Katrina, companies including Northbrook, Illinois- based Allstate Corp., the largest publicly traded U.S. home insurer, raised rates in disaster-prone areas, bolstering their balance sheets and stock prices. Now, insurers are stuck holding mortgage-related investments in a market where there are so few buyers that it's hard to know what those assets are worth.
Unquantifiable Losses
AIG, Ambac Financial Group Inc. and MBIA Inc. have reported the biggest markdowns tied to the mortgage markets....

