George Zimmerman's wife charged with perjury

Quote from hughb:

When you decide you are going to carry a gun out in public, you are taking an enormous risk. It doesn't appear that Zim fully thought through all of the consequnces about carrying in public. Maybe he googled Florida self defense laws before he started packing, but it just never dawned on him that he isn't the one who determines what constitutes self defense. There are a whole lot of other people involved in making that decision, and some of them are elected officials who have a constituency to answer to and please.

Trayvon didn't think things through either, when he decided to practice his MMA skills on somebody following him through the neighborhood. Even though the amateur video of his backyard MMA fight shows he wasn't really all that good, maybe he thought he could take a short little Hispanic looking guy. He never considered that the little guy was carrying a gun. Trayvon essentially showed up unarmed to a gun fight.

And now we have Shellie Zim not thinking things through when she told the court they had no money. Maybe she thought she was increasing her husband's chances of getting bail if she told the court they were, and I quote, "destitute". She didn't consider they would find out about the pay pal money, or maybe she didn't think it mattered.

The point is none of these people are very thoughtful. One guy dead, one guy in jail on a murder charge, and a wife facing a perjury charge.

And to add even one more twist, I don't really think Angela Corey thought things through when she charged Zim with 2nd degree murder. I don't think anybody believes she can possibly get a murder conviction here. So what exactly was she thinking? Upcoming elections? How good will it look for her when the defendant is acquitted? Did she think that through?

One more thing, it looks like a few ETers here are gun enthusiasts, so I hope you think things through before you decide to carry one out in public. There's a million and one things that could go wrong. Is it really neccessary for you to be armed in public? Resonsible gun owners think things through before they ever take a gun out of the house.

Good post. Here's another thought; What if Trayvon was a better MMA fighter and got Zimmie's gun? It sounds like he got pretty close to it. I'll bet things would be quite a bit different and then people who currently carry may now think twice about the "wisdom" of doing so.
 
Quote from futurecurrents:

It's terrible. Here they were just trying to game the system and lie and now they got caught. What's America coming to when one can't lie to the courts and get away with it !? Or for that matter, carry a gun and kill innocent people after stalking and provoking them? Where are our freedoms going?

This is not going to end well, now matter what the outcome. Florida, due to it's recent electoral past is a tinderbox, and DC knows this. How they can diffuse this situation without troops on the streets I do not know.
 
>>One more thing, it looks like a few ETers here are gun enthusiasts, so I hope you think things through before you decide to carry one out in public. There's a million and one things that could go wrong. Is it really neccessary for you to be armed in public? Resonsible gun owners think things through before they ever take a gun out of the house.<<

I think this is very good advice. I know a lot of people have taken the classes and got their CCw license, but just because you have a license doesn't mean you need to carry. The chances of actually needing a gun when out of the house and having the opportunity to deploy it are very low. The chances of something going badly wrong are high.

I had a relative who was in a Zimmerman situation. He was out on a late night dog walk and heard a neighbor in a hostile dispute with some little thug the neighbor had caught in the act of trying to steal some stuff. The punk was about the beat the neighbor up when my relative popped out of the bushes and announced he was armed. The punk took off. If he had decided to attack my relative instead, it could easily have ended up as Travon II. "Whites shoot unarmed black teen, who was just out for a walk."

The fact is, if you shoot an unarmed person, even if they are pounding you, you will probably be prosecuted. There are loads of cases like that. And, if you're carrying and get into a scrap, there is always the worry that they will take the weapon and use it on you. So you are in a can't win situation.

Or let's say you are in a convenience store and someone tries to rob it. You draw on them. Several things can happen, only one of which is good, ie he drops his gun and gives up. You can get shot, you can shoot a bystander, you can shoot the robber and get sued in civil court or possibly be charged for using excessive force.
 
Quote from futurecurrents:

It's terrible. Here they were just trying to game the system and lie and now they got caught. What's America coming to when one can't lie to the courts and get away with it !? Or for that matter, carry a gun and kill innocent people after stalking and provoking them? Where are our freedoms going?

The fact is criminal defendants and their relatives lie routinely to courts. Few are prosecuted. This case is even weaker because the money in question had been donated to a defense fund. A young woman untrained in law or finance is being prosecuted because she failed to clarify vague and confusing questions about "their" resources.

the conclusion is inescapable that the state, realizing their case against Zimmerman is paperthin, saw an oppportunity to use his wife as leverage. It is despicable and unethical.
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:



I had a relative who was in a Zimmerman situation. He was out on a late night dog walk and heard a neighbor in a hostile dispute with some little thug the neighbor had caught in the act of trying to steal some stuff. The punk was about the beat the neighbor up when my relative popped out of the bushes and announced he was armed. The punk took off. If he had decided to attack my relative instead, it could easily have ended up as Travon II.

That punk was committing a crime by stealing from and about to assault the neighbor ,Martin wasn't committing any crimes
 
Quote from AK Forty Seven:

Martin wasn't committing any crimes

exactly.

Currently though, everyone in prison at some moment in time were not commiting a crime. Martin though, just had an anger issue. Ya think he would have been a happy camper, walking in the rain drinking ice tea and eating skittles.
 
Quote from AK Forty Seven:

That punk was committing a crime by stealing from and about to assault the neighbor ,Martin wasn't committing any crimes

It wouldn't have mattered if my relative had shot him. Even if he had attacked them, it would have been a case of "white man shoots unarmed black teen."

And to be factual, Martin was committing the crime of assault and battery when he was shot.
 
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