George Zimmerman: Media Whore

Quote from Maverick74:

Seriously if this guy was really paying people $35 an hour, every black guy in the state of TX would be lining up to do this. Shit, I know guys that would move down from Chicago to do it. In a heart beat. And then he says he can't find anyone to do the work? Bwahahahahahahaha.

No shit! The illegals who trim these evil palm trees/plants in FL would go ape shit to make $35/hr. the LEGAL blacks would do the same for $35/hr IF they weren't getting "free money" as they deal drugs and steal as a side job...
 
Quote from Maverick74:

I'm sorry, I don't believe you. You can't be serious. They would turn down $35 an hour? Fuck most traders I know wouldn't turn down $35 an hour. Come on. As Max said, that's almost 100k a year. I know attorneys that don't make 100k a year and in TX? Jesus. That's like making 150k a year in Chicago or 300k a year in NY. This is getting more absurd by the minute.

You can't be this stupid and dense mav. I do not pay by the hour. I pay by the square of work completed. I don't think you or max are dumb but in your zeal to argue and disagree with me y'all are saying some dumb things.
I DO NOT PAY BY THE HOUR. I PAY BY THE SQUARE. I DO NOT TELL MY SUB HOW TO PAY HIS MEN. SOME SPLIT THE MONEY EVENELY AFTER EXPENSES SOME SUBS PAY THEIR MEN A SMALLER AMOUT PER SQUARE THAN I PAY THEM.
And yes Mav there should be more American men doing this, it's damn good money when the work is there. But white boys won't do the work and the ones who do...well so far I don't want them on my jobs.
 
Quote from Max E. Pad:

LOL, look how all this has changed with this statement, so 1 person COULD make up to 35 an hour in absolute primetime, but now he has to split it?

In other words instead of what you originally said where you pay guys 35 an hour, it is incredibly rare if a guy can make 35 an hour, if he busts his ass, and if he skims off his whole crew, now your whole story just changed.

Now it came to exactly what i said where the guys in that industry who make money, make it off of screwing other people for low wages.

Fuck you max, you are talking like an idiot. I gave you the exact amount I paid a crew and the number of men it takes to do the job. A job that takes 3 men one day to do pays $1650.00. I do not tell the sub how to split up the money. Out of this amount about $300 goes to dump fees and some to gas and a little to things like hook blades. Get out your calculator and punch in the numbers max, there is good money in this business. It's too damn bad our home grown boys don't get out there and do the work, but they won't.
 
Quote from bigarrow:

You can't be this stupid and dense mav. I do not pay by the hour. I pay by the square of work completed. I don't think you or max are dumb but in your zeal to argue and disagree with me y'all are saying some dumb things.
I DO NOT PAY BY THE HOUR. I PAY BY THE SQUARE. I DO NOT TELL MY SUB HOW TO PAY HIS MEN. SOME SPLIT THE MONEY EVENELY AFTER EXPENSES SOME SUBS PAY THEIR MEN A SMALLER AMOUT PER SQUARE THAN I PAY THEM.
And yes Mav there should be more American men doing this, it's damn good money when the work is there. But white boys won't do the work and the ones who do...well so far I don't want them on my jobs.

I'm asking about the black boys, not the white boys. You keep dodging this question. It doesn't matter if you pay by the hour, if someone is making 100k a year, then they are making 100k a year. It's pretty simple. I'm sorry, but that is DAMN good money for TX. Hell it would be damn good money for NY or CA. I don't believe you that blacks won't take that job. I think they will. So why are not they getting it? Stop obfuscating.
 
Quote from Maverick74:

I'm asking about the black boys, not the white boys. You keep dodging this question. It doesn't matter if you pay by the hour, if someone is making 100k a year, then they are making 100k a year. It's pretty simple. I'm sorry, but that is DAMN good money for TX. Hell it would be damn good money for NY or CA. I don't believe you that blacks won't take that job. I think they will. So why are not they getting it? Stop obfuscating.

I thought I already answered the question about black boys mav. Go back a few posts and check out my answer, it hasn't changed.

Quote from bigarrow:

Is this what is called a strawman reply? But I'll still answer your question honestly like I've done with all my roofing posts. The reason I dont' have black roofing subs is because I don't have black roofing subs asking me for work.
 
Quote from bigarrow:

I thought I already answered the question about black boys mav. Go back a few posts and check out my answer, it hasn't changed.

Why wouldn't they ask you for work? To make that kind of money? What, they are not interested?
 
Quote from Maverick74:

Why wouldn't they ask you for work? To make that kind of money? What, they are not interested?

I don't know why, they should. It takes some equipment, a 3/4 ton truck, a dump trailer, compressor and nail guns and some hand tools and some good workers and of course some skill. It isn't just black kids mav, it's all of them. It seems they are content working at McDonalds for $8 an hour or not working at all, instead of busting their ass in the sun and making twice that. But I'm not out to fix the world, just make an honest living doing good work for my customers. That's all mav.
 
Quote from bigarrow:

Fuck you max, you are talking like an idiot. I gave you the exact amount I paid a crew and the number of men it takes to do the job. A job that takes 3 men one day to do pays $1650.00. I do not tell the sub how to split up the money. Out of this amount about $300 goes to dump fees and some to gas and a little to things like hook blades. Get out your calculator and punch in the numbers max, there is good money in this business. It's too damn bad our home grown boys don't get out there and do the work, but they won't.

Either you are describing the absolute best case scenario or shinglers in texas make more than accountants.

In the scenario you just gve you said you would pay them 1650 for a job that would take 3 guys 1 day, and 300 of dump fees.

So 1650-300 = 1350 - 50 for gas = 1300

1300 /3 = 433 per person for one day, you just gave your guys an 8 dollar an hour raise from the scenario you previously described which where guys make 350 per day.

Supposedly these guys who are subcontracted from you are making six figures pounding shingles, and you are still able to skim money off the top, dude do you not understand how unrealistic these numbers are?

I have a feeling the numbers you have given us are the absolute max, where you quote a person high cause its not a job you need, and not a job you wanna do.
 
Quote from bigarrow:

Let's put it out there Lucrum simple and clear. If I answer your questions then you will put up $7,000.00 in a bet on an IQ test between you and me and the person who scores higher gets the $7,000.00 from the person who scores lower on the test. If you are really saying this then I'm all in.
The money thing again? I already told you I'm not betting. I WILL meet you for your silly IQ test challenge though. Provided you answer the two simple questions you've been dodging for weeks and go to a boxing gym with me afterward.

What's money even have to do with it?
 
Quote from Lucrum:

The money thing again? I already told you I'm not betting. I WILL meet you for your silly IQ test challenge though. Provided you answer the two simple questions you've been dodging for weeks and go to a boxing gym with me afterward.

What's money even have to do with it?

IQ doesnt mean shit, bigarrow admittedly fried his brain due to to much time in the sun, meanwhile he, is a self proclaimed genius, who spends his time walking up and down ladders all day in the blistering heat.

You fly various planes for a living, work minimal hours, and make more far more than him....

Geeeee lets think which person was smarter.......
 
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