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Quote from Madison:

what about 150 to 30 for a hairpin, then right back up to 200? throw in variable radius turns in both directions, extreme acceleration/deceleration, track height and pitch variations, rain, etc. -- there's just no comparison from a driver or technological point of view between F1 and nascar. imagine trying this at 220:

http://www.fia.com/sport/Championships/F1/F1_Circuits/2005/Japan/2005.html

that's not to knock nascar, its great for what it is, and it's a fun spectacle, but they are very different disciplines. nascar caters, very sucessfully, to a majority that is more interested in violence and spectacular crashes than precision driving or technological perfection. that's what nascar gives them - essentially a sophisticated demolition derby with suspense: overcrowd the track with big, heavy cars with bumpers on long straightaways, and you're guaranteed to get aggressive driving and some 10 car pileups sooner or later.
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I agree, F1 is good stuff. I was just mentioning my personal preference. I don't believe that F1 drivers are anymore precise or talented than Nascar drivers though. I can't do either, so I can't say for sure!!
 
#48 seems to be surviving OK w/out Chad. 1 and 2 ain't bad. Congrats to Matt.
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Another snoozefest on a superspeedway. At least it didn't end under another yellow. Once the 20's pit fouled up and put him at the back, any entertainment value was gone. He and Biffle might have had a good battle, but I think Tony used his car up getting back to the front and Biffle blew as well.
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

Another snoozefest on a superspeedway.
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I couldn't agree with you more regarding the boring race. NASCAR in its infinite wisdom decided long ago cookie cutter snoozefests bring in more fans then Darlington, North Wilksboro and Rockingham. BTW, in case NASCAR didn't notice, the race did not sell out.

- Spydertrader
 
Quote from rickylc:

hmmm, driving 3 inches away from 30 other cars at 180 mph that are on the edge of the handling envelope less than an inch from a concrete wall twice per lap for 4 hours doesn't take the utmost driving skill and technological precision?

not to knock nascar eh? a sophisticated demolition derby that is inferior to F1 in skill and technological precision sounds an awful lot like a knock to me
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again, it's not a criticism at all - as described by AAA, and as shown in it's huge popularity, nascar is doing something right. they have made it very exciting, and have cultivated a loyal fan base by going out of their way to grant access to the drivers, as opposed to the primadonnas in F1 or the jerks in some other pro sports. they've equalized the cars to reduce domination by the big money teams. they encourage passing, bumping, pit chaos, and crashes, and cars that are safe enough to let drivers crash them. that the cars are technologically inferior to F1 is obvious - but not necessarily for lack of money or talent, it's by design.

all of which are consistent with the idea that that the focus is on something other than the pure quality of the racing, itself. the major appeals of the event are not just seeing who can drive 500 miles with the absolute highest amount of skill in the shortest time.

if you want to see driving in a long-straightaway oval an inch from the wall, but without the crashes and bumping, check out IRL - you won't have trouble finding a seat at the track, for good reason. :D
 
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