Gay marriage and polygamy

[james_bond_3rd]

Quote from jem:

I worked for the democratic policy committee in 1987 when byrd was the leader of the majority of the party and hence my boss.

Byrd was no conservative. He seemed a little crazy but he was liberal. Perhaps because he had to be for the sake of his scrwed up party. Many of the people working for him were socialists and/or neo commies. He and joe biden lied like hell about the mail they were receiving. It was largely in favor of Judge Bork by the way.

In his offices, his staff hung posters of people working the fields.

In spanish on the posters it said the land belongs to the people who work it.

I was outraged as these posters were in the Senate office buildings.

Your undrestanding of the civil rights movement is similarly confused.

And you continue to assert stuff without referecene while I gave you vote count tha showed repubicans for civil rights and dems against. I gave you one cite that said Gingrich led the fight in West Va. There is other information on the net.

If you would just type in republicans and civil rights in yahoo you might learn the true history.



In the 26 major civil rights votes after 1933, a majority of Democrats opposed civil rights legislation in over 80 percent of the votes. By contrast, the Republican majority favored civil rights in over 96 percent of the votes.

By the way as far as zzz fundamentalists have blocked progress that is bullshit also.

Many fundamentalists like Pat Robertson led the fight for civil rights legislation.

I cannot dispute that you worked for Byrd (but why did you do that?)

However, you're confused about what we're arguing. Your original claim was that "conservatives" were leading the charge in the civil rights movement. You first named Newt Gingrich. But he was in college at the time and did nothing. The article you linked to mentioned Gingrich, but did not state a single contribution Gingrich made, other than the fact that he was a Republican in a Democratic south.

Now you're throwing out Pat Robertson's name without anything to back it up. Here is the entry in wikipedia for the relevant years: "In 1956 Robertson found his faith through Dutch missionary Cornelius Vanderbreggen, who impressed Robertson both by his lifestyle and his message. Vanderbreggen quoted Proverbs (3:5, 6), "Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths", which Robertson considers to be the "guiding principle" of his life. Soon afterwards, he 'spoke in tongues' for the first time. He was ordained as a minister of the Southern Baptist Convention in 1961.

In 1960, Robertson established the Christian Broadcasting Network in Virginia Beach, Virginia. He started it by buying a small UHF station in nearby Portsmouth. It is now seen in 180 countries and broadcast in 71 languages. In 1977, he founded the CBN Cable Network, which was renamed the CBN Family Channel in 1988 and later simply the Family Channel. " I don't see any mention of his leading the civil rights movement.

Republican does not always equal to conservative. Lincoln's Republican party was founded on the fundamental belief in personal freedom, which we have a name for it. It's called liberty. Liberty is what liberalism is all about.

 

[jem]

you are playing games. backing up your statements with nothing. I gave you quotes and articles you come back with non responsive junk.

try your own medicine and show that all those republicans voting for the civil rights act were liberal. or show that the cites that taklk about conservatives leading the movement were wrong.


At least some of the cites attempt to discredit the conservatives say that the conservatives were just attempting to make the dems look bad and did not really care about civil rights.

I wil not attempt to educate you further. Liberals tend to be great at ignoring inconvenient facts, are you a liberal?