Gargantuan Head and Shoulders Top in the Dow - Dow 2000 target

Ok, good luck shorting the DOW [ ... ] with the 0% fed funds rate, with the lax monetary policy, and with the FED supporting the economy. You are betting against the FED. So, good luck with that. Honestly, I wish you luck.

No, you are not betting against the FED.

You are betting against the HERD that thinks QE is some sort of magic that makes the stock market go up forever. The same herd that thought the magic was the internet in 2000 and real estate in 2007.
 
The Dow in completely doomed. The neckline is around 8,000, top of head is around 14,000, which would put the minimum price target at 2000.

I jest. No worries, the pattern failed, this chart goes to 2010. But seriously, what part of this is not legit? I am just starting to work on my CMT materials and therefore not an expert on H&S patterns, but (other than volume) it seems a lot like one.

Of course, it has not broken the neckline, so it could only be a tentative pattern. But what else is missing?

Have you ever seen Bulkowski's books? That's the required level of detail for trading chart patterns.
 
patterns give you a maybe where there wasnt one before,there are sites that keep track of percentages,everything is just putting on a bet,same as a horse track or a college game, you bet the one with the highest odds of being right,here are a couple in apple,first one didnt play out, 2nd one has better odds because its more realistic but still not high odds
http://thepatternsite.com/id75.html

first one is still in the process of playing out !!

:D
 
Ok, good luck shorting the DOW to 2000 with the 0% fed funds rate, with the lax monetary policy, and with the FED supporting the economy. You are betting against the FED. So, good luck with that. Honestly, I wish you luck.

Good job noticing that the chart was from 2010. Good "prediction." Go play some golf or something relaxing.
 
Looks like someone has done a "state of the art" of traditional technical analysis.
Now just a question : how many times have you traded just one and only one thing? There are some traders out there "killing it" with simple moving average crossovers...
but it took them a lot of "elbow sweat" to get there... a simple moving average crossover strategy...

smallStops: Thank you for having something coherent to day that does not blame all problems on the Fed and HFTs. Sincerely, me.
 
Seems like most people (a) didn't read your second paragraph and/or (b) didn't notice that you left off the last three years.

Patterns exist because people see bunnies in clouds. And there is an oooo factor among the unsophisticated that prompts them to view pattern people as experienced and knowledgeable. But when it comes to evidence and reliability, problems arise.

Be that as it may, patterns -- such as they are -- exist due to behavioral dynamics. The so-called Head & Shoulders is no different. But the H&S is a story of greed and desperation and panic which cannot be told without volume. And you don't have anywhere near the necessary volume. So it evolves into nothing more than a series of higher highs.

If the materials you're using stress patterns, perhaps it's not too late to get a refund. :)


Thanks for the great reply. I started with the CMT stuff mainly because it seems to be an unbiased source for a list of materials to start studying technical analysis. Edwards and Magee was on the top of the list, so I've started there. What you said about behavioral dynamics and patterns is very interesting, E&M lays out a theory for why head and shoulders patterns exist, and it makes a ton of sense from a behavioral perspective.

E&M really stress the importance of looking at volume when considering patterns, and I notice that few people seem to actually practice this when looking at patterns.

And yes, I think the fact that the chart is three years old may be sorting the wheat from the chaff here :)
 
Thanks for the great reply. I started with the CMT stuff mainly because it seems to be an unbiased source for a list of materials to start studying technical analysis. Edwards and Magee was on the top of the list, so I've started there. What you said about behavioral dynamics and patterns is very interesting, E&M lays out a theory for why head and shoulders patterns exist, and it makes a ton of sense from a behavioral perspective.

E&M really stress the importance of looking at volume when considering patterns, and I notice that few people seem to actually practice this when looking at patterns.

And yes, I think the fact that the chart is three years old may be sorting the wheat from the chaff here :)

"CMT" is not ringing a bell but that may be feeble-mindedness on my part. But as for Edwards and Magee, that can mess you up, especially if you're reading an edition that came out after Bassetti got hold of it.

If you're really interested in this stuff, I suggest you set the E&M aside and get the Schabacker work (Technical Analysis and Stock Market Profits) that is the basis of it (few people know now that Schabacker did nearly all the work first but asked Edwards, his brother-in-law, to finish it since Schabacker was too ill to do so; if you're interested in the Schabacker original, it's available for free as a pdf; the Magee stuff is of course unique to Magee).

Edit: About CMT. If you're referring to the Chartered Market Technician material, the bias is demonstrated by the choice of material, and much of what you're reading or will be reading will likely send you down the same wrong course that everyone else has traveled (and in many cases is still traveling).

If you're really interested in technical analysis, i.e., the analysis of price movement, start at the very beginning, with Dow (actually that's not the very beginning, but close enough), Hamilton, Rhea (which I'm sure are also available in free pdf). Then move into Wyckoff (available in free pdf), deVilliers (ditto), Schabacker, Elliott. You'll know a hell of a lot more about technical analysis than anyone with whom you're likely to come in contact.
 
"CMT" is not ringing a bell but that may be feeble-mindedness on my part. But as for Edwards and Magee, that can mess you up, especially if you're reading an edition that came out after Bassetti got hold of it.

If you're really interested in this stuff, I suggest you set the E&M aside and get the Schabacker work (Technical Analysis and Stock Market Profits) that is the basis of it (few people know now that Schabacker did nearly all the work first but asked Edwards, his brother-in-law, to finish it since Schabacker was too ill to do so; if you're interested in the Schabacker original, it's available for free as a pdf; the Magee stuff is of course unique to Magee).

Edit: About CMT. If you're referring to the Chartered Market Technician material, the bias is demonstrated by the choice of material, and much of what you're reading or will be reading will likely send you down the same wrong course that everyone else has traveled (and in many cases is still traveling).

If you're really interested in technical analysis, i.e., the analysis of price movement, start at the very beginning, with Dow (actually that's not the very beginning, but close enough), Hamilton, Rhea (which I'm sure are also available in free pdf). Then move into Wyckoff (available in free pdf), deVilliers (ditto), Schabacker, Elliott. You'll know a hell of a lot more about technical analysis than anyone with whom you're likely to come in contact.

That sounds like an excellent list. I will try to track them down.

I am getting the general idea that you are suggesting that going to the horse's mouth is the best route. So Frost and Prechter would not be recommended in regards to Elliot?
 
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