Gallup: Obama's Post Bin Laden Bump Has Vanished

[Ricter]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

to say the country is in it's "end game" is too severe.

Agreed. We're going to make it.

each administration and congress has continued the "not on my watch" bullshit. recessions are a necessary cycle of the economy. preventing a recession by artificially borrowing from the future does nothing but make the inevitable recession down the road that much more powerful.

Which is why we need to start retaining a surplus, ie. savings, when we're in an expansion phase, and quit with the "taxes are too high" excuse to burn it up.

Re your waves of bad times... yes and no. We're rich, most of the rest of the world is poor. We won't experience the full brunt of the worst of the bad times, that's reserved for the poor. Of course, instability has effects.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from Scataphagos:

1. "The end game" could take 30-40 years of deterioration before climactic collapse... (Just like the collapse of the Roman Empire)

2. If we "emerge as a dictatorship, conservative or not".... it's still the "end of America" and instilled by the Founders.

America as a continent will always be a patch of dirt. In that sense, it will never end.. the only differences will be who is calling the shots, and what is the life of the inhabitants.

Even after the fall of Rome, the Roman Empire remained until a reasonable competitor could take it's place. So shall it be with America.

But insofar as the Founder's vision goes, I think that ship has already sailed.

 

[Scataphagos]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

Even after the fall of Rome, the Roman Empire remained until a reasonable competitor could take it's place. So shall it be with America.

But insofar as the Founder's vision goes, I think that ship has already sailed.

Don't you think "end game" has something to do with quality of life and economy... or are you just arguing semantics? The Roman Empire vanished... but was it "brilliant until it went out like a light" or were there many, many years of degradation before finally disappearing. I'd say the long tail of deterioration was a very negative part of the "end game" for the inhabitants... as it will be for us.

Being strong and vibrant is one thing... still alive but "hanging by a thread" is entirely different.

 

[pspr]

And I didn't even know he was pregnant.

 

[denner]

Quote from Ricter:

Commodities are falling.

Right, they pullback after a parabolic rise for the better part of 2 years and now they are "falling". Sorry, but the price of damn near every commodity is higher than it was at this time a year ago, two years ago, etc. Many are right back where they were during the last acute phase in 2008.

Nevermind 5, 10, 15 years ago.

 

[elon]

Quote from Scataphagos:

Don't you think "end game" has something to do with quality of life and economy... or are you just arguing semantics? The Roman Empire vanished... but was it "brilliant until it went out like a light" or were there many, many years of degradation before finally disappearing. I'd say the long tail of deterioration was a very negative part of the "end game" for the inhabitants... as it will be for us.

Being strong and vibrant is one thing... still alive but "hanging by a thread" is entirely different.

Today's youth has the choice to emigrate to the superpower of the next 100 years. Choices:

China
India
Brazil

 

[Yannis]

The Team That Got Bin Laden

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from elon:

Today's youth has the choice to emigrate to the superpower of the next 100 years. Choices:

China
India
Brazil

Brazil?

 

[jem]

if commodities were falling, wouldn't that mean that the are anticipating an economic down turn? Wouldn't that be more proof that the curret policies of govt spending are not working?

Its time to eliminate the income tax and let the people create economic benefit.....

economically speaking govt spending is very likely to inefficiently allocate resources. (especially when powerful lobbyists are involved.)

 

[rew]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

Even after the fall of Rome, the Roman Empire remained until a reasonable competitor could take it's place. So shall it be with America.

But insofar as the Founder's vision goes, I think that ship has already sailed.

+1