Fulltime trading weird experience

Quote from cooolweb:

Another thing is, always look the part of a sensible businessman

#1 mininum a polo shirt, and some nice custom fitted slacks and at a basic rockport++ shoes. you walk around with shorts and flipflops, tellin people you work as an investment manager, your image gives off a smell of unemployed surfer boy.



#2 Every single day, my day consists of drinkin, eating, working out, and dating women. I get the same question almost every single day, how come you have all this free time, I'm usually dressed mininum business casual, I always have very impressed responses when I say I manage money. the look, the style, the personality, the free time, fits the part.

#3 Maintain a smile when you say it, like you are confident, if you are stutterin words out, you are a broke surferboy, if you say it with a smile and confidence, that means you are MONEY. plain and simple. Girls suck my cock after they hear it.

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Example of good conversations

So what do you do John?
Answer: I manage money *grin*
Oh really, how is that working out?
Answer: Can't complain, can't complain.. *bigger smile*

WRONG conversation:
So what do you do John?
Answer: I'm a trader umm, I provide liquitiy on the NYSE markets...
Oh really? So whats providing liquidity?
Answer: I buy and sell on the bid and ask, I try to find arbitage betweeen gold and gold futures.
Does that make money?
Answer: hmm... well... Sometimes it makes money sometimes it don't, Got to manage risk you know?
So you are basically a daytrader right?
Answer: umm yes I guess.

Idiot responses = detailed responses .

No offense, but you sound like a complete d-bag. Unless you are trying to sell your neighbors something, be yourself. Have a few beers with them in your garage... make friends. Your neighbors seeing you with nice cloths/car/watches/women, does nothing to improve your performance- It probably hampers it. You sound like a materialistic prick.
 
If anything I enjoy discussing my work as a trader with other people.

I get increasingly confused the more I read this thread.

Why all the secrecy about one's trading?

What's wrong with responding "I am a trader" or similar when asked about one's occupation?
 
Quote from ElectricSavant:

I have always stayed to myself and wifey hates to socialize. We stay to ourselves and blessed to have a home in a great neighborhood...Neighbors that are not seen and heard are the best neighbors...and thats what we have...I saw a neighbor once when he opened his electric garage door with his remote when coming home..We all have gardening maintenence in these spacious ranch homes (3,000 sq ft) so there is not the weekend danger of seeing a neighbor working on his yard...its is just great and I have no plans to move.

I never answer the door if the doorbell rings when I am in the back of the house trading...it is usually a solicitor anyways...

Just tell your neighbors that you grow medical marijuana if they pester you...or...your an agent for the IRS...That usually works and they stay away. I told one neighbor that moved away that I was a mortician...:) (I later discovered that both of them were terminally ill and moved to Florida)

Wifey and I do not like bars and we cook at home more than we eat out. Wifey stays very professional at work and avoids socializing with other work associates.

We have our animals, which are like our children and this is the way we choose to live. Try it ...you will like it...People just take, animals only give.

At the Gym we never talk to anybody, we just get to the business of training. The gym is a couple of long blocks from Home. Sometimes we will get a taker trying to talk to us and we simply stay pretty closed-mouth and avoid them in the future. I love our Gym...we do not need to check in the old fashioned way...we simply enter a number on the keypad and the scanner scans our fingerprint and we are in....no interaction with the staff.

The only person allowed in our home or our rental is a retired engineer out of work and is a great handyman and he does the job and we pay him 25 bucks an hour and there is little conversation. He is meticulous and we are both happy with the arrangement. We see him just a few times a year and he has never had to return to fix something that he did not fix correctly.

The biggest social event is when we go to the dog park..Wifey is a groomer and many people know her there, evnthough we drive across town to get to it...damn...The Dog park would be so much nicer if the takers would just leave us alone.

On ET I socialize a lot and relate to traders. I truely like traders and can identify with them. But I do not wish to meet anybody here in person. I have done joint projects with several here and I consider them friends, but it is merely professional and remains that way.

One time someone asked me what my political affiliation was...I used to say I was a capitalist..but that is getting to be a dirty word more and more these days...(I am closest to being Libertarian)

I think bridaling the tongue has been a great challenge for me, but Wifey has taught me a lot about when to speak and when to not...The less spoken the more comfortable I am.

ES

Social Anxiety Disorder?
 
I agree with the guy who said to tell people you're semi-retired. That's what I do, although I don't hesitate to say I'm trading as well.

As far as how to fill your time, I don't know if anyone mentioned this but consider teaching something you did in your "former life", or tutoring - something along those lines. If you don't know anything else besides trading, then flip the script ... maybe go back to school yourself or just take one class. It's never a bad thing to broaden your knowledge or skills. Then again, someone else mentioned hunting for new edges when you're done trading for the day ... IMO this is more of what a "professional" trader would do to fill out his afternoons, if that's how you want to think of yourself.
 
Quote from ElectricSavant:

...The less spoken the more comfortable I am.

ES

The posting of the inner depths of your soul must have been quite uncomfortable.

How sad for you and your wife. I've traveled all over the world and have met some of the most giving and interesting people in my travels. How sad you have such a narrow view of your earth mates. I share my home with many I have met and they offer their hospitality in kind. My children have had the luxury of interacting with many cultures and many inspiration people. They have met some from the other extreme as well but have learned to know the differences, which is important to being mentally and socially balanced.

Good luck to you in the future.
 
Quote from m22au:

If anything I enjoy discussing my work as a trader with other people.

I get increasingly confused the more I read this thread.

Why all the secrecy about one's trading?

What's wrong with responding "I am a trader" or similar when asked about one's occupation?

thats correct in theory. although yes, some people aprreciate what you do when you tell them and breifly describe the profession of trading and other says, "oh, so you gamble huh?" then you want to slap them. So sometimes you just feel better not getting into something most people could never understand.

I've only met 1 non trader that understood what trading was and the probabalistic nature of the profession and how it all works. Most everybody else just looked at me like i was nuts, stupid, a gambler, or whatever the fuck else. It gets annoying so I prefer to just say nothing.
 
Quote from ChkitOut:

thats correct in theory although yes, some people aprreciate what you do when you tell them and breifly describe the profession of trading and other says, "oh, so you gamble huh?" then you want to slap them. So sometimes you just feel better not getting into something most people could never understand.

I can only conclude that it comes down to a "glass half full" versus "glass half empty" dichotomy.

While I have may have had some misinformed responses to the idea of trading as a career, it doesn't bother me. There have been plenty of neutral or positive reactions, and these are the ones I enjoy.

As an aside, what kind of world would it be if everyone (not just traders) approached their responses to the "What do you do for a job?" question with such paranoid fear of people's reactions to the truth?
 
Quote from m22au:

I can only conclude that it comes down to a "glass half full" versus "glass half empty" dichotomy.

While I have may have had some misinformed responses to the idea of trading as a career, it doesn't bother me. There have been plenty of neutral or positive reactions, and these are the ones I enjoy.

As an aside, what kind of world would it be if everyone (not just traders) approached their responses to the "What do you do for a job?" question with such paranoid fear of people's reactions to the truth?

Yeah, I hear what you're saying. I think ultimately it just depends on the type of person you are and your personality. For me, I'm more a private person and less chatty about my life anyway and so am less likely to get into it.
 
I have told several people that I take care of problems for people when they have no other options. I'm just waiting for the day when I'm asked to whack somebody, then I can begin my new career :)
 
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