From rags to riches, 700$ to 100k in 2013

Quote from justrading:

Buddy, if you click on that Twitter link you will see a tweet

@Malaniruth let's go..post it everywhere on every forum..theyll buy it

If you click on that you will see that it is the Twitter feed of a skinny chick with oversized shades. Follow down to her tweet of 19 Dec and you will see,

Who's up for starting and spreading a $NFLX $150/share buyout rumour? Let me know. I'll start it. You spread it.

Cockroaches and rodents.


Where is the SEC twitter task force when you need em :) That's gotta be illegal. Some kid named Ledbed did something similar a while back spreading rumors on messages boards about stocks to get people to buy em.
 
Quote from Zr1Trader:

Anyone with small accounts has the best chance with Oanda because they can control their position size and MM to the T which is one of the most overlooked parts of the game.


Just don't go for ten pips at a time or the broker is the only winner. Go for good chunks on longer time frames.


I guess YM or NQ could be ok for some too provided their MM is able to be followed easily in relation to their account size.


nope Oanda is forex broker and you're stuck with 50:1 leverage. Yeah I will not lose a lot but I will not make a lot. Boring as fuck if you ask me. No offense! :)

But yes I do go for good pips. 25+ pips and with 5 pip SL.

But I olny lost because of my stupidity not because it can't be done.
 
Quote from justrading:

A pity indeed, but not a total loss. The exchange of ideas, different ways of approaching this, all that was good stays with us, if we let it.

+1

Indeed.

I still hold out hope that someone will publically attempt "The Run," and follow it through to the end, whether the end is Boom or the more likely Bust.
 
Quote from justrading:

<<< What is obvious by now is that you are prejudiced against short-term trading, and as a consequence, rather than providing the best advice to the OP, you advise based on this prejudice. >>>

What a ridiculous thing to say.
I believe the shorter the trade the better.
I hope to close every single one of my trades early. The sooner the better, assuming i keep a sig % of the credit relative to that time frame.
Clearly you skimmed my rely post and did not actually read it for context.



<<< Your wonderful advice to look at LEAPS in the context of a 50% annual return will yield the OP the grand sum of $350. >>>

Again, if you think i was recommending LEAPS for the OP, it's another example of you skimming my reply post and not actually reading it for context.



<<< You can express your individuality by calling 'cats' 'dogs' if you wish, there is no law against that, but it is generally accepted that absolute dollar gains are a function of account size, and looking at absolute percentage gains minimises that factor somewhat. >>>

You really have no idea of the point I'm making. So I'm going to try this one last time:
Assume I initiate 4 naked puts via a 62 day trade, a 25 strike and a credit of $0.60..... = 14% annualized return.
Suppose I now close the trade the next day, keeping $0.07 profit.
I made $28. Less after commissions,.... but my annualized % return jumped to 102%.

What I'm saying is, ignore the 102% return and just focus on the $28 earned.
(Closer to $20 using just one commission.)
The 102 % return on such a S-T trade is meaningless, as you are NOT going to earn anything close to it at year end, using the same strategy thoughout the year.
WHY?
There will be too many gaps between trading days.

Count the $20. Ignore the % return.
Then quarterly, add up all your $20's and then annualized them, so you will have some idea as to what % return you are on track to earn by year end.
What is the point of earning a meaningless 100% per trade throughout the year, just to end the year earning 10, 15 or 20%???

As for my LEAPS comment, I was simply making the point,... that if one uses all their cash to initiate a 365 day LEAPS trade that earns 15%, they will actually end the year earning 15%,... as there are no gaps between trading days.
I was NOT suggesting anyone initiate a LEAPS.
 
Quote from mm2mm:

nope Oanda is forex broker and you're stuck with 50:1 leverage. Yeah I will not lose a lot but I will not make a lot. Boring as fuck if you ask me. No offense! :)

But yes I do go for good pips. 25+ pips and with 5 pip SL.

But I olny lost because of my stupidity not because it can't be done.

Hey , some people trade for the thrill (not money) and if you're getting the entertainment you want out of it then more power to ya.

How many times can you go to the casino and blow 1k to keep your hobby going is the question.
 
Quote from dfantome:


I said that my planned return% is to have 100k by the end of the year. I definitely dont throw darts and "hope" there is no hope, just cold hard facts in my trades. I know they will pay off before expiration when im putting my money down, especially not having shit to work with. If i end up being wrong ill close it out for the smallest loss I can once Ive realized its gone bad and not able to be "saved".

IF i wanted to gamble id go to my local casino and throw it all on roulette, it'd be easier.

When do you plan to start?
 
Quote from justrading:

In short term trading it is not customary to annualise individual trades because one is left with the question of what the multiplier should be, ie how many trades per annum when there is no consistent number of trades per day. For really short term trading, individual trades get rated by absolute % return, and performance is gauged by annualising the daily/weekly/monthly/quarterly return on capital. Referring to annualised returns for individual trades in the context of short term trading is simply confusing.
 
Quote from dfantome:

Hello everyone. Im D Fantome. Ive been a lurker for a couple years now, the past two especially. Ive decided to finally join the site and make a contribution of my own, and to log my progress and first steps into the financial world.

Let me give you some background on me. Im 23 years old. Im currently unemployed. Im a single father.

Seeing my savings dwindle down to 700 has encouraged me to actively start making my money work for me. Ive been into stocks since before I was 18. Started getting into them more seriously in the past two years especially. Have been paper trading options,stocks & forex since thenand doing very well. Options are my preferred investment as I love their complexity and managing them, implementing strategies. So most my trades will be option based. With a forex account added once another 500$ is avaliable.

Although I do plan to get a job soon as I am a CNA currently and bankroll the operation with some more capital, at the moment I am only working with 700$. I will post all deposits and activity in the account..as I hope to deposit some more money, and I will be taking money out to live on as it accumulates.

My goal is to have 100k in cash + account value by the end of the year and be able to do this full time. Im here to show my style, although i am not very experienced. I am open to all critcism, comments, and dialog. join me on my journey..welcome to my log & thanks for reading


Good stuff. If you can do it in 2 trades i give you extra points for style. But that would be very difficult.(12 fold each trade or so)
 
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