From Micros to Millions: 2% per day

Sad to see this journal end again sstheo, but I'm sorry to say I'm not surprised. You're trying to make lightning fast decisions but have, from what you stated, a 10 step process of analysis before entering a trade. Of course I realize its not like a checklist, but its exhaustive. With this many things to look at, you will never get all of them to line up.

Here is an example. I looked at cumulative delta in the past, and after your journal decided to look at it again. Sure enough, same thing was pretty obvious. Half of the time, a divergence between the CD and price led to a positive trade, and half of the time, it was fake. What I mean is price is climbing nicely to some previous high, but the CD just isn't keeping up. It seems like not enough trades on the ask, so no buying aggression. So then you think, ok, its gonna drop on a test of the high. And yes, half of the time it did, but the other half of the time, it blew right through the high. So CD gives confidence for some trades, and keeps you out of others that worked. Or, gets you into trades that don't work, but sometimes keeps you out of trades that fail. All in all, its a 50/50 toss up.

Same thing with multiple markets. Sometimes when one is weak, you're scared to take a long in the market you are trading, and this either means you miss a good trade, or are lucky to not get into a losing trade. But once again, a 50/50 proposition.

With your list of 10 things you watch, its like asking 10 other traders if we should go long right now or not. You will get varied opinions, and then you're stuck trying to figure out whose opinion is worth more. My point is that its far too much information to process and mostly useless.

You end up suffering from paralysis by analysis. You're about the only trader on here who seems to quit when they are doing well. Most quit when they run out of money or suffer a bad string of losses.

In some ways, I'd like to say that all you needed to do was just to keep going as the stats speak for themselves. But we both know that you were a train wreck waiting to happen because you can't trust what you're seeing or trust yourself. You probably know its all far too complex and the wheels will fall off the truck eventually. You're putting too much pressure on yourself and aren't comfortable with the losses. You're chasing a high win rate, but I think the real mastery in trading is accepting a decent win rate and accepting the losses, but knowing that the next trade is just around the corner.

You're operating like a race car driver who can only focus for 2 hours going around the track several times a month as opposed to a bus driver that can put in 8 hours shifts many times a week. If you don't simplify and get comfortable with so/so stats, you will never be able to scale up. Heck, even the way you say you're allowed to trade up to 7 contracts or whatever is a joke. You're spreading the contracts in multiple markets because you don't have the confidence in your trades in the one market. To me, its a total crutch designed to make you "feel" good, but all it really does is hold you back.

My suggestion, trade just one market to trade, and cut down what you watch. The stats you produce here will give more confidence to scale up contracts in just that one market. Since this is what I think is your ultimate goal, this will be the shortest path to getting there. Multiple markets and 10 trade criteria is like going from LA to NY, but flying the wrong way around the world via the Pacific ocean, then over Asia and Europe and finally the Atlantic ocean.
 
Of course, the way to trade correctly is the way you describe - set and forget. If near the PT, then of course I can trail the stop or just take the profit.
Hello sstheo,

You should do exactly what you stated. Set and forget, and when it get there near PT area, manage (in an objective repeatable fashion) the trade for more profits if you like.

Just my opinion for you and something that helped me, watch the video below. One of the best video I seen on youtube awhile ago. I really like how he talks alot.

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Sad to see this journal end again sstheo, but I'm sorry to say I'm not surprised. You're trying to make lightning fast decisions but have, from what you stated, a 10 step process of analysis before entering a trade. Of course I realize its not like a checklist, but its exhaustive. With this many things to look at, you will never get all of them to line up.

Here is an example. I looked at cumulative delta in the past, and after your journal decided to look at it again. Sure enough, same thing was pretty obvious. Half of the time, a divergence between the CD and price led to a positive trade, and half of the time, it was fake. What I mean is price is climbing nicely to some previous high, but the CD just isn't keeping up. It seems like not enough trades on the ask, so no buying aggression. So then you think, ok, its gonna drop on a test of the high. And yes, half of the time it did, but the other half of the time, it blew right through the high. So CD gives confidence for some trades, and keeps you out of others that worked. Or, gets you into trades that don't work, but sometimes keeps you out of trades that fail. All in all, its a 50/50 toss up.

Same thing with multiple markets. Sometimes when one is weak, you're scared to take a long in the market you are trading, and this either means you miss a good trade, or are lucky to not get into a losing trade. But once again, a 50/50 proposition.

With your list of 10 things you watch, its like asking 10 other traders if we should go long right now or not. You will get varied opinions, and then you're stuck trying to figure out whose opinion is worth more. My point is that its far too much information to process and mostly useless.

You end up suffering from paralysis by analysis. You're about the only trader on here who seems to quit when they are doing well. Most quit when they run out of money or suffer a bad string of losses.

In some ways, I'd like to say that all you needed to do was just to keep going as the stats speak for themselves. But we both know that you were a train wreck waiting to happen because you can't trust what you're seeing or trust yourself. You probably know its all far too complex and the wheels will fall off the truck eventually. You're putting too much pressure on yourself and aren't comfortable with the losses. You're chasing a high win rate, but I think the real mastery in trading is accepting a decent win rate and accepting the losses, but knowing that the next trade is just around the corner.

You're operating like a race car driver who can only focus for 2 hours going around the track several times a month as opposed to a bus driver that can put in 8 hours shifts many times a week. If you don't simplify and get comfortable with so/so stats, you will never be able to scale up. Heck, even the way you say you're allowed to trade up to 7 contracts or whatever is a joke. You're spreading the contracts in multiple markets because you don't have the confidence in your trades in the one market. To me, its a total crutch designed to make you "feel" good, but all it really does is hold you back.

My suggestion, trade just one market to trade, and cut down what you watch. The stats you produce here will give more confidence to scale up contracts in just that one market. Since this is what I think is your ultimate goal, this will be the shortest path to getting there. Multiple markets and 10 trade criteria is like going from LA to NY, but flying the wrong way around the world via the Pacific ocean, then over Asia and Europe and finally the Atlantic ocean.

As a race car driver, you have given me lots to think about while I am in the pitstop...
 
As a race car driver, you have given me lots to think about while I am in the pitstop...

sstheo don't spend too long in the pitstop, there's a lot of people on ET that want to watch you racing around the track.
 
I am actually trading all four indices S&P, Nasdaq, DJIA, Russell with micros. I have done the hedging you discuss in the past (taking an opposite position on a different instrument), but not recently. Because these four are often in sync, I am usually just going after the more probable successful trades taking my longs on the two strongest (or least weak) and taking my shorts on the two weakest (or least strong). At the moment of decision, I determine strength or weakness by simply comparing the % up or down on the day.

Avoid Taking Big Losses. I did some big thinking last night (always dangerous!) about my catastrophic loss prevention, as it has been discussed so much this week on these pages.

I mentioned the funded account combines in my intro post. "Blowout" becomes the middle name of most of the guys and gals who attempt the feat. I personally did more evaluations with TST, OneUp, and Leeloo than I will ever admit to. I know one guy who made over 100 attempts. The deadline and the qualifying goal set these traders up for failure over and over again.

But a combine failure is a walk in park compared to a real money blowout. The psychological damage of losing a large amount of real money is serious and poverty-inducing, regardless of whether it is from a lack of knowledge or simply poor rule following. And these losses impact you in ALL parts of your life. Large losses and blowouts must be prevented at all costs. Capital preservation is at least 10x more important that capital appreciation. So...

Looking at @virtusa's tale about his friends above...

What am I doing to prevent a blowout? 10 things.

1) Take profits off of the table. If they are off the table, I can't lose them! This is so obvious that it is rarely discussed. The market is jittery. I scalp because I don't trust the market momentum and follow-through, and I have been rewarded over and over again for that lack of trust. LOL.
I have watched several traders make excellent big 10+ ES point trades. They had their targets with a limit in place. And within 2 or 3 ticks of the goal, the market has fully reversed. Yes, they should have had a trailing stop in place, but they didn't in at least one case and lost the full 10 points.
The market is ranging 70% of the time. Prices usually revert to the opposite side of the range, but usually at least to the midline. I think of my trading as a little semi-automatic pellet gun instead of a .357 magnum. Yes, I miss some big breakout moves, but this is okay. I keep a tight stop on my RTM trades, because I know at some point prices will actually explode up or down.
But even with my trend trades, I have seen the market sharply reverse out of nowhere. So yes, I take the profits and wait patiently for another high-probability setup.

2) Be realistic with the goal for the day and then STOP when reached. I mentioned the combines. The goal had to be 5% per day of the target amount to reach the goal in one month (20 trading days). No problem! But because of the max drawdown, it also meant a consistent 9% per day gain (see post #1 for the calculations). Now imagine if you have a down day. Now the next day you have to get 15% or 20% gain. What do you do? You force trades, you take extra risks, you get married to bad trades that you just "know" are going to reverse soon. The pressure to perform is debilitating.
So I propose that the self-imposed speed bump of 3% per day keeps me from reaching to far too fast and making really stupid decisions like I did on my combines. When you are in a footrace and reach the finish line, you stop. You don't keep running. Stopping when the goal is reached gives you time to breathe, celebrate, and reset things for the next day.

3) Don't add to losers. I am not using a martingale strategy. Averaging down to get a better average cost works great most of the time, especially in big range. But if you are wrong and the market KEEPS GOING against you, then nuclear annihilation results. If I am in a trade, then I will let it prove itself before adding to it. Only add to winners is a hard concept, but I am working on it. Usually with scalping, I am shooting for such small targets (7 to 10 ticks) that adding is a mute point as the trade is usually closed out quickly as a winner.

4) Set a reasonable stop and honor it no matter what. I have been guilty of breaking this rule over and over again over 15 years. (I started in October 2005 my wife reminded me today.) There is no way around it; at some point if a trade is going against you have to admit defeat. Will it be at 10 ticks? 10 points? 10% of your account? 100% of your account? I hate being wrong! But the market doesn't care about me. I have to be humble, admit defeat and move on. Set the stop and take it honorably. Don't be a deer in the headlights who just stands there petrified or saying "Wow, pretty lights!" Get off the road!!!
Remember that Ty Cobb, the best hitter in major league baseball had a .366 career batting average. This means he still struck out a lot; as a hitter he failed 63% of the time. Think about that. Remind yourself over and over again. "My stats say I will win long term. This loss is just part of the game. I will take the loss and look for the next trade. I can always get in at a better price and finish the day strong."

5) Trade smaller than you can. As mentioned, my big breakthrough as a trader came with the micros. My success with FX came because I could trade really small sizes. Likewise, the micros allowed me, for the first time, to take a loss and not wince. Until you can say "I don't care!!!" about a small loss you are putting yourself in a bad spot mentally. You need a bigger account or smaller traders, or you will constantly be beat up by your losses. This is one of the reasons scalping works for me. I know I have many more opportunities to make up those losses. Even though the margin permits me at $7k to trade up to 14 ES contracts, it's pretty obvious that it would be a HUGE mistake. What is reasonable? I propose self-imposed $10k per E-mini and $1k per Micro E-mini contract.

6) Eliminate Big Picture Bias. I have been predominantly a short-side trader for 15 years. When a short trade sets up, it moves 5 to 7 times fast than the long trades. And I love keeping my time the market short to reduce potential whipsaw. But I have finally figured out how foolish this is considering the incessant fed stimulus and the overall buy and hold environment of stocks over the decades. Nevertheless, and despite the BTFD crowd, the only appropriate stance is RESPONSIVE trading. I just talked to someone today who is "long only." I include "eliminate bias" on this list, because that bias is what clouds your thinking and puts a mist around what you truly should be seeing each hour and minute of the trading day. See WHAT IT, not what you want to see.
On the daily timeframe, I still like to think about where prices "should" go that day, but the moment the momentum changes, I need to give up the bias and change my thinking.

7) Emergency plan in place. Thanks to the poster who reminded me. I know that some platforms and brokers have an auto-stop loss that can be set on a per-day basis. AMP automatically flattens everything at the 80% loss level in one day. Ask me how I discovered that one! I will see how to tighten that up to 10% or tighter. And I know they charge a liquidation fee per contract. That is a sufficient deterrent to stupid trading. At 10%, you can only lose a maximum of 10% of your account in one day, so you can stay alive for a least a few more...

8) Watch the moonshots and falling knives. I love to fade tops and bottoms, but have scaled way back on this dangerous activity. On the upside, sometimes because of a trump-tweet or a lip-flapping fed fool, those "strong resistance levels" are soundly pierced and the price keeps shooting to the moon. On the downside, the knives are sharp and cut anything in their path. YES, reversals are probable at both the top and the bottom. Statistically, you will win. But death is NOT an option any longer. So wait until you are convinced the momentum has truly shifted, whether you use a high volume tick or a reversed moving average. Don't stand in front of the rocket or catch that knife. It's okay, there will be other trades!

9) Trade WITH the trend. After the charts I showed yesterday, with mostly counter-trend trends, this one is comical for sure. I love counter-trend trading, but going in the direction of the dominant movement will make life much easier. I am doing better at this most days. Especially in fast moving markets, either GO WITH the move, or stand out of the way. Don't fight it.

10) Don't swing trade. By swing trading I mean having a trade on while you are sleeping. Not only will a portion of your brain bring less-than-ideal sleep to your bed as it grapples with the probable movements of your position all through the night, but you will probably be WRONG in your position. And you might be VERY wrong. You might have left a stop on or one you thought you had on got cancelled. It's just not worth it. If you are a day trader, then DAY trade. Since the micros came around last year I have left many single trades on overnight. Sometimes I would be ahead in the morning, but usually I was down a bit. Yes, I could make up that little bit in the first few minutes of the new market, but starting from a NEGATIVE position is bad mentally.


So thanks to everyone who poked and prodded to get me to articulate this list....
 
With all the talk about the siren song of the funded futures accounts and the monthly cost, has anyone successfully passed the evaluation, ever successfully draw say $20,000 to $30,000 at one time on the fourth month when the $1,000 withdraw limit is dropped? Anybody been with LeeLoo for over a year?

Thanks
 
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