Like I said, I don't need to read these sorts of books to have a sense of how things work in Russia...
Frexit
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Eventually we'll have to pay a huge price for this madness. f
The Bengali famine was nothing like the one in Ukraine. The government at the time in Bengal tried to subsidize food production and drive prices down but there was a massive war going on so resources were limited.
Holodomor in Ukraine happened during peace time. The famine wasn't something that occurred naturally like in Bengal, it was engineered by Stalin to eliminate the independence movement. Then again, Stalin killed many of his own family members, often without a proper reason. Before you say "he was Georgian", without the backing of the Russian population, he wouldn't have stayed a ruler for so long.
Many of the Soviet era acts were committed because of some insane plan or as a threat to an ethnic minority (stop talking about independence or we'll murder everyone).
Next you're going to justify how it made sense to get hundreds of thousands of regular people, put them on cattle trains and ship them to Siberia in the winter where survival was almost impossible without resources.
And no, the British weren't doing that.
TL;DR: There's nothing in common with the events in Bengal and in Ukraine.
I don't know much about Holodomor, but you might want to read up on the Bengali famine a little bit more. It's been generally accepted by the historians as one of the worst genocides, British Empire excepted (predictably). It by no means justifies the atrocities committed by others, Stalin included and I would never say anything of sort. All I said was that it was not unique.
The topic is obviously very stressful for you, probably being from one of the Soviet republics, but I am just keeping a balanced perspective on everything. That includes Putin, the Arab world etc.
The topic is obviously very stressful for you, probably being from one of the Soviet republics, but I am just keeping a balanced perspective on everything. That includes Putin, the Arab world etc.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/mos...itler-Stalin-The-murderous-regimes-world.html
Bengali estimated 2.1 million victims.
Stalin estimated 40 million victims.
In the ranking of the most murderous regimes Stalin is number 2, Mao was number 1. Hitler was number 3. The top three came from the same century.
Everywhere atrocities happen, indeed, but the scale is many times completely different. 2.1 or 40 is a substantial difference if you put it in a balanced perspective.
So the argument "Everywhere atrocities happen" is a non argument as it is like comparing apples and oranges.
Actually, the total toll from the Indian famines is estimated to be 20-30 million. Not that it matters - I was merely making a statement that hunger was a common too of terror at the time.
I don't understand how we went from Putin and the French elections to the murderous dictators of the past. The balance perspective comment was related to the recent behavior of Putin, starting with the Georgian war.
I don't understand how we went from Putin and the French elections to the murderous dictators of the past. The balance perspective comment was related to the recent behavior of Putin, starting with the Georgian war.
Is that information coming straight out of your ass or did you crawl and pull it out of Zzz1's ?
You sure take your ease with facts.
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