French Gratitude

Quote from lundy:

I have not threatened anyone, and I certainly would not kill anyone.

Regardless of your own personal willingness to act on the sentiments you express, both in substance and in tone they are completely typical of the kind of hate speech that, in the real world, all over the world, accompany and help lead to real beatings, killings, murders, and other atrocities.

When you engage in such speech, you have no right to turn around and self-pityingly beg for light treatment. You started "it." We have just as much a right to castigate you as you have to make loathsome and ignorant statements. Some of us go further, and consider it our responsibility to speak up when people make such statements - precisely because we have witnessed or are aware of the evils that they can lead to.

Unless you lead an extremely sheltered life, or are an exceptionally hard-hearted person, there are people whom you know, love, admire, and respect whose sexual preferences are not the same as yours - people whom you are calling "fahgots" here. This fact may surprise you. The reason it's never come up is that, for reasons that should be obvious, they haven't felt very comfortable about revealing the truth to you. You probably have good reason to love, admire, and respect these people. Most of them (okay, there's probably a sicko in the bunch, but the same goes for your favorite heteros, too) would be as disgusted as you at the thought of someone forcing themselves sexually on a child or teenager - or of engaging in some of the other activities you describe. Think about it.

Alright, I'm off the soapbox on this subject - back to the war.
 
Quote from msfe:

Which country poses the greatest danger to world peace in 2003?

North Korea 6.6 %

Iraq 6.3 %

The United States 87.1 %


Total Votes Cast: 705636

http://www.time.com/time/europe/gdml/peace2003.html

Yes Wild, we have seen you post that "scientific" poll many times before, on many different threads.

You have a very repetitive mind, don't you. The TIME European version certainly provides a picture of France and Germany being anti-American, something nobody expected, right?

Polly want a cracker?
 
Quote from Babak:

The US/UK/Canada and other countries sent their sons and fathers to die in Europe to free the French and other Europeans. And this is how their sacrifice is repaid:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2003150899,00.html

0,,2003150352,00.jpg
Are you assuming that this paint job represents the thoughts and feelings of an entire nation?
 
Quote from alanack:


Are you assuming that this paint job represents the thoughts and feelings of an entire nation?

I can't speak for Babak, but I'm not aware of any large group of French citizens aligning themselves with the US.

--Db
 
Quote from OPTIONAL777:



Yes Wild, we have seen you post that "scientific" poll many times before, on many different threads.

You have a very repetitive mind, don't you. The TIME European version certainly provides a picture of France and Germany being anti-American, something nobody expected, right?

Polly want a cracker?

Quote from Babak:



msfe seems to be a software program written by a few high school pranksters. It just cuts/pastes from extremely biased web sites in the attempt to pass the information on as facts. Most people here have given up on him as he doesn't engage in any constructive dialogue but rather just cuts and pastes.

.........

It seems the program is a third generation neural net capable of some rudimentary 'learning'.

Babak is correct. The program, while written by a few high school pranksters, does have a tech support site. I found it on the web. ...www.gaynazi.com ... "wild v. 1.xx" has been released as a beta version now called "msfe 03". Called the support number, and not surprisingly, got an endless loop problem just as we see here.

Dial one for english, dial 2 for german, dial 3 for german, dial 4 for arabic, dial 5 for "Cuban" Spanish, dial 6 for german, dial 7 for french, dial 8 for other choices, dial 9 to end this call, dial zero to return to the main menu.

Upon dialing 8 for "other choices" I got :"Please dial 1 for The Guardian, dial 2 for The Observer, dial 3 for Whitehouse.gov, dial 4 for polls that prove our point. Dial 0 to return to previous menu.

There was no way out. :mad: :confused: :mad:
 
Quote from alanack:


Are you assuming that this paint job represents the thoughts and feelings of an entire nation?

Well, here's what a pro-American Frenchman wrote on the subject:

Some people need memorials to remember, I don't.
I can maintain memory and I can transmit it, without a shrine.

It's not an exploit to remember Joe and Tommy you know. They are the ones achieving exploits.

And that brings me to Etaples and the desecration of the British WWI memorial.

I'm not trying to find excuses for the people who did this or for my country, its government, its opinion makers and activists who created and hatefully developed the required conditions for this attack against Joe and Tommy' graves to happen.

I'm not trying to find culprits that would conveniently explain - and therefore partially excuse - this profanation. I read a "theory" claiming that, since the swastika was drawn the wrong way, that nasty blow was perpetrated by "Arabs". The French rocket scientist behind this claim supports his "theory" with the fact that Arabs write from the right to the left.

Yeah, right. Nice try.

I won't even start on the underlying racist argument. The insults were written in French, no matter the direction the swastika point at. Unless the Saudi, the Palestinian Authority or even Saddam's ghost sent a team of calligraphers overnight in the north of France, the people who did this, even if they had an Arabic ethnic background, are French.
They're part of the French "multicultural miracle" our elite so frequently compares to the US melting pot "failure".

And I'm certainly not trying, in this post or with the picture I made up yesterday, to be some kind of appeaser - despite my nationality - saving France's honor on a personal level by demonstrating that "not all French are like that".
I know there are, in this country, people who share my views, but I'm afraid we're just a tiny minority.

So why would I care for France's honor?

I'm being as displeased with France these past days (months, years) as the British and American people are today. Maybe more and more legitimately, since I'm a native.

But passed the first anger reaction, I took a moment to pause and to think about the kid I was on Omaha beach.

I remember Joe, I remember Tommy.

But I don't remember Fritz. Only his victims.

Fritz has no face. Fritz is dead for good.

Covering a memorial dedicated to the men who victoriously fought authoritarian and bellicose states 90 years ago, with insults, threats and praises to the dictator their descendants are fighting right now, not only confirms that these men were on the right side - we already knew that - but also that today's Joe and Tommy are living up to their ancestors' expectations, sacrifice and victory. They're still on the right side.

I call that, without a doubt, a consecration.


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Quote from rs7:

Hapaboy, who I think goes overboard in his zealous attempts to wrap himself in the American flag....America love it or leave it.... at least I can credit him for expressing his own thoughts. That they are a bit extreme for my tastes is something else. But I have not heard him clamor to imprison those who disagree with him as has Mondo. (Then again, anyone who thinks all drug dealers should be executed....well maybe I give him too much credit).
You will never hear me clamor to imprison those who disagree with me....

And RS7, please, I don't think ALL drug dealers should be executed. Please refer back to the thread. However, as Optional likes to say, I have yet to hear a coherent argument to make me change my mind on the subject...

"Zealous"? Perhaps. I make no apology for loving my country while openly conceding that it is not perfect. Most opinions on issues like this are going to be extreme and therefore "zealous."

Don't worry about whether or not you've given me too much credit, because it doesn't really matter to me one way or the other. I enjoy your posts and respect your opinion, but your approval hardly tops the list of my priorities.

All the best,
Hapa
 
A message from the ignorant bigot:

The "Gay Agenda"
http://www.sphi.com/the_gay_agenda.htm

http://www.regent.edu/acad/schlaw/lawreview/articles/14_2Rondeau.PDF


Homosexuality promoted to young people

http://www.family.org/cforum/topics/a0018824.cfm

http://www.jeremiahproject.com/TrashingAmerica/homosexeducate.html

http://www.family.org/cforum/feature/a0016651.html


Terms used by homosexuals

http://andrejkoymasky.com/lou/dic/s.html

there you will find the word scat, which refers to eating shiit, felch which refers to using a straw to suck semen out of the anuse, fist which refers to sticking the fist up the anuse to the elbow.
 
although I think its very gross, i really don't care what these people do in private.

But i am very opposed to their "coming out of the closet" and trying to recruit young kids in schools, influence the government to pass legislation in their favor, etc... etc...

You and some others have labeled me a bigot. I'm not going to label you, but I do want you to be aware that your words show you to be ignorant on the matter of homosexuality.

You even admit this yourself. Yet you openly defend homosexual's activities. You are not defending homosexuals, and I am not attacking the people themselves. I'm attacking their agenda, and I'm discriminating against their activities.

I don't have a label for what you are doing... but i'd describe it as the " i'm ok your ok" type, or the " lets all just get along" type.

We're all humans right? YES. But that doesn't mean all activities are equal.

If you don't mind having your children indoctrinated in the homosexual doctrine, then your pro homosexual. If you say you don't mind, but you don't even know what homosexuality is about, then you are stupid.

However, I have a feeling that you are just ignorant about the topic, and if you were to delve deeply into the subject you wouldn't support these people.

I suggest www.sphi.com as a good start. Or just do a google search about promoting homosexuality.

If you refuse to educate yourself, then you have no business speaking on the subject, or labeling others bigots.

Like Kymarfye, you think that I want to kill these people. I never said that, and I never hinted it. I'm just against the promotion of homosexuality and by their activities, I class them as lower inteligence.... not a lower species. I also am against abortion, that doesn't mean I want to kill people who abort their babies.

You concocted this lie.

I may not be as educated as yourself. And I apologize if I have offended you in any way. However, I take a strong stance when it comes to social problems such as drugs, suicide, abortion, and homosexuality.

I guess in your mind that makes me a bigot. Along with all the other strong moral christian, muslim, and hindu families that live in America.

edit: i use the word homosexual and fahggot interchangably although the word fahggot is my preference... but you were having a fit.
 
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