Freezing January for Easterners Was Not Felt Round the World

...our earth off gasses co2....
Into space? Oh great, what's next? Outer space <s>warming</s> climate change?
Can you just imagine the carbon taxes they'll be demanding to scrub the solar system of CO2?
 
I just reread the article. (from the al gore website)

my take is the author is a bit mixed up.
he and some of the others speak of the mass balance equation and the conservation of mass.... but the earth is not a closed system so the conservation of mass would not apply.

I have read studies show our earth off gasses co2.
Therefore you cant argue the mass balance equation applies to figuring out inputs. (co2 contributors.)


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when you read the chart and see diff? and it compares year over year... are you not smart enough to understand they are extracting out seasonal variations?

are you really that much of a moron? or just a lying troll?







Regardless. It's an irrelevant red herring. We are not interested in seasonal CO2 variations. It's the long term rise in CO2 that is causing temps to rise. Not the other way around,.
 
when you read the chart and see diff? and it compares year over year... are you not smart enough to understand they are extracting out seasonal variations?

are you really that much of a moron? or just a lying troll?


Look idiot. It's very simple. CO2 leads temperatures because it is a GHG. Period end of story.
 
exactly.... I will post this on the thread I started...


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...effect-myth-say-scientists.html#ixzz2uUL5eaps


Greenhouse effect is a myth, say scientists
Research said to prove that greenhouse gases cause climate change has been condemned as a sham by scientists.

A United Nations report earlier this year said humans are very likely to be to blame for global warming and there is "virtually no doubt" it is linked to man's use of fossil fuels.

But other climate experts say there is little scientific evidence to support the theory.

In fact global warming could be caused by increased solar activity such as a massive eruption.

Their argument will be outlined on Channel 4 this Thursday in a programme called The Great Global Warming Swindle raising major questions about some of the evidence used for global warming.

Ice core samples from Antarctica have been used as proof of how warming over the centuries has been accompanied by raised CO2 levels.

But Professor Ian Clark, an expert in palaeoclimatology from the University of Ottawa, claims that warmer periods of the Earth's history came around 800 years before rises in carbon dioxide levels.

The programme also highlights how, after the Second World War, there was a huge surge in carbon dioxide emissions, yet global temperatures fell for four decades after 1940.

The UN report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change was published in February. At the time it was promoted as being backed by more than 2,000 of the world's leading scientists.

But Professor Paul Reiter, of the Pasteur Institute in Paris, said it was a "sham" given that this list included the names of scientists who disagreed with its findings.

Professor Reiter, an expert in malaria, said his name was removed from an assessment only when he threatened legal action against the panel.

"That is how they make it seem that all the top scientists are agreed," he said. "It's not true."

Gary Calder, a former editor of New Scientist, claims clouds and solar activity are the real reason behind climate change.

"The government's chief scientific adviser Sir David King is supposed to be the representative of all that is good in British science, so it is disturbing he and the government are ignoring a raft of evidence against the greenhouse effect being the main driver against climate change," he said.

Philip Stott, emeritus professor of biogeography at the School of Oriental and African Studies in London, said climate change is too complicated to be caused by just one factor, whether CO2 or clouds.

He said: "The system is too complex to say exactly what the effect of cutting back on CO2 production would be or indeed of continuing to produce CO2.

"It is ridiculous to see politicians arguing over whether they will allow the global temperature to rise by 2c or 3c."

The documentary is likely to spark fierce criticism from the scientific establishment.

A spokesman for the Royal Society said yesterday: "We are not saying carbon dioxide emissions are the only factor in climate change and it is very important that debate keeps going.

"But, based on the situation at the moment, we have to do something about CO2 emissions."
 
Interesting. So greenhouse gasses don't absorb certain wavelengths of heat energy anymore?

I didn't know the physical properties of gasses could change! Amazing!


John Tyndall must be rolling over in his grave and there goes two hundred years of climate science out the window!

Better tell these guys...

American Physical Society

"The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring. If no mitigating actions are taken, significant disruptions in the Earth’s physical and ecological systems, social systems, security and human health are likely to occur. We must reduce emissions of greenhouse gases beginning now."
 
man you are such a low level thinker. the point is that there is no science showing that man made co2 is causing the warming. that is the myth. in a lab greenhouse gases may observe certain wavelengths... that does not mean they cause net warming in a dynamic systems with all sorts of feedbacks.

Interesting. So greenhouse gasses don't absorb certain wavelengths of heat energy anymore?

I didn't know the physical properties of gasses could change! Amazing!


John Tyndall must be rolling over in his grave and there goes two hundred years of climate science out the window!

Better tell these guys...

American Physical Society

"The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring. If no mitigating actions are taken, significant disruptions in the Earth’s physical and ecological systems, social systems, security and human health are likely to occur. We must reduce emissions of greenhouse gases beginning now."
 
man you are such a low level thinker. the point is that there is no science showing that man made co2 is causing the warming. that is the myth. in a lab greenhouse gases may observe certain wavelengths... that does not mean they cause net warming in a dynamic systems with all sorts of feedbacks.

Yes, there is evidence. Tons of it. Idiot.

That's why every science organization in the world says things like this.........

American Chemical Society

"Comprehensive scientific assessments of our current and potential future climates clearly indicate that climate change is real, largely attributable to emissions from human activities, and potentially a very serious problem."
 
"When I saw the recent claim that 97% of climate scientists endorse the theory of catastrophic man-made global warming, it struck me that this is the same margin by which dictators typically claim they have won re-election—and for the same reason."-Americanthinker.com
 
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