Freezing January for Easterners Was Not Felt Round the World

[futurecurrents]

You have no proof that rising CO2 levels are cooling the planet. None. You have no science.


I have these guys..



American Meteorological Society
"It is clear from extensive scientific evidence that the dominant cause of the rapid change in climate of the past half century is human-induced increases in the amount of atmospheric greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide (CO2), chlorofluorocarbons, methane, and nitrous oxide." (2012)7

 

[Ricter]

here are pictures for your troll brain fraudcurrents. this explains how co2 cools
CO2 is one of the most effiecients coolants in our atmosphere.

Doesn't mean it's a net coolant.

 

[jem]

when did I say it is a net coolant.
I am not arguing it is a net coolant.
I am arguing that fraudcurrents and his agw nutter pals don't have enough science to say adding man made co2 causes warming.

I am arguing science does not know. That is reality.
I have stated I suspect we will find that intially CO2 warms but when you add more starts blocking out more of the Sun's energy than it keeps in.

Sort of like a laffer curve. or maybe like a stock which shoots up from over sold to over bought and back again.

Doesn't mean it's a net coolant.

 

[Ricter]

when did I say it is a net coolant.
I am not arguing it is a net coolant.
I am arguing that fraudcurrents and his agw nutter pals don't have enough science to say adding man made co2 causes warming.

I am arguing science does not know. That is reality.
I have stated I suspect we will find that intially CO2 warms but when you add more starts blocking out more of the Sun's energy than it keeps in.

Sort of like a laffer curve. or maybe like a stock which shoots up from over sold to over bought and back again.

I doubt your Laffer curve analogy. Venus has so much atmospheric CO2 reflecting sunlight that it's the third brightest object in the sky, yet it's an inferno on the surface, as hot as Mercury's day side.

 

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[Ricter]

Of course you can't make this point unless you accept what science currently states is truth, and make the historical comparison. On the other hand you could be trying to argue that since science has changed its views, nothing can be known. Is that what you're trying to do?

 

[futurecurrents]

you are the twisted troll trying to change my argument.
I present the science and the data...
The problem for you is you have no science saying man made co2 causing warming in our environment.

let me present the link to the peer reviewed paper again.
maybe you will read it and understand it.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921818112001658


Highlights
► Changes in global atmospheric CO2 are lagging 11–12 months behind changes in global sea surface temperature. ► Changes in global atmospheric CO2 are lagging 9.5–10 months behind changes in global air surface temperature. ► Changes in global atmospheric CO2 are lagging about 9 months behind changes in global lower troposphere temperature. ► Changes in ocean temperatures explain a substantial part of the observed changes in atmospheric CO2 since January 1980. ► Changes in atmospheric CO2 are not tracking changes in human emissions.

You have no proof that CO2 always lags temperatures. Why must you lie? Do you have children? You have no science, just a crazed hatred of Al Gore and govt.

 

[jem]

thats fine... I doubt venus is hot simply because of co2.

it has clouds.. it has SO2 from volcanoes it has a much denser atmosphere, it is closer to the sun. it does not have govt paying for agw scientists.

I doubt your Laffer curve analogy. Venus has so much atmospheric CO2 reflecting sunlight that it's the third brightest object in the sky, yet it's an inferno on the surface, as hot as Mercury's day side.

 

[futurecurrents]

you are the twisted troll trying to change my argument.
I present the science and the data...
The problem for you is you have no science saying man made co2 causing warming in our environment.

let me present the link to the peer reviewed paper again.
maybe you will read it and understand it.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921818112001658


Highlights
► Changes in global atmospheric CO2 are lagging 11–12 months behind changes in global sea surface temperature. ► Changes in global atmospheric CO2 are lagging 9.5–10 months behind changes in global air surface temperature. ► Changes in global atmospheric CO2 are lagging about 9 months behind changes in global lower troposphere temperature. ► Changes in ocean temperatures explain a substantial part of the observed changes in atmospheric CO2 since January 1980. ► Changes in atmospheric CO2 are not tracking changes in human emissions.

That study is not relevant. Why even bother showing this crap? You have no proof that CO2 always lags temperatures. Why must you lie? Do you have children? You have no science, just a crazed hatred of Al Gore and govt.

Rising CO2 levels ALWAYS cause rising temperatures. Do you know why? It's because CO2 is a GHG. You may want to find out what that is because right now you're just making yourself look like a raving lunatic.

 

[futurecurrents]

Global warming was by far the dominant prediction in the seventies.


Damn those facts!!