Come on buddy, are you here to incite or to meaningfully discuss and debate? You should be happy that Brexit is proceeding as planned and that your European friends are pressing for a timely exit rather than granting meaningless extensions. Isn't that something to cheer?
France ready to veto any meaningless Brexit delay: Elysee official
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The chaos in the UK grows day by day. Now even the parliament is going to try to find out what they wish:
The problem with democracy is that all people who are allowed to vote have the same importance. This problem exists in every democracy, not only in the UK. Just being old enough is what is needed to vote. No check if you have any clue what the vote is all about. So the biggest idiot has the same vote as the biggest expert in that specific area. That causes a lot of trouble.
Brexit is just one example of this phenomena. Not allowing the 10% biggest idiots to vote might have given a totally different outcome.
If they would do a test to check who really has any idea about what Brexit would really mean, probably 30-60% would never pass the test. It is therefore not logical that every person who can vote today should be able to vote.
And social media is manipulating everything so hard that it even make things worse. People who understand what the vote is about will be not much be influenced, while the "idiots" will be influenced a lot for two reasons: they don't know what the vote is about so cannot judge on the vale of what is posted in social media; and they miss the intelligence to understand that they are manipulated.
Compare it with trading: for trading you only need a few dollars and open an account.
That's why most fail.
In referenda or elections that is similar:all you need is have the legal age to vote, and go to vote. That's why many vote wrong.
If you would go for a life saving surgery, who should decide how they should operate you?
The surgeon? Or should it be democratic and should all people working in the hospital vote what the doctor should do? Including the janitors, the man who maintains the gardens and the electricians?
When I was still working, our company had about 10,000 employees. But the management team (9 persons including myself) had weekly meetings and decided on all financial issues. If it should be like in elections and referenda, 10,000 people should have together decided what the company should do. Luckily that never happened, it would have been a financial nightmare as the majority of these 10,000 have no clue about finances (but had other qualifications that we had not).
- leave
- stay
- anything in between
The problem with democracy is that all people who are allowed to vote have the same importance. This problem exists in every democracy, not only in the UK. Just being old enough is what is needed to vote. No check if you have any clue what the vote is all about. So the biggest idiot has the same vote as the biggest expert in that specific area. That causes a lot of trouble.
Brexit is just one example of this phenomena. Not allowing the 10% biggest idiots to vote might have given a totally different outcome.
If they would do a test to check who really has any idea about what Brexit would really mean, probably 30-60% would never pass the test. It is therefore not logical that every person who can vote today should be able to vote.
And social media is manipulating everything so hard that it even make things worse. People who understand what the vote is about will be not much be influenced, while the "idiots" will be influenced a lot for two reasons: they don't know what the vote is about so cannot judge on the vale of what is posted in social media; and they miss the intelligence to understand that they are manipulated.
Compare it with trading: for trading you only need a few dollars and open an account.
That's why most fail.
In referenda or elections that is similar:all you need is have the legal age to vote, and go to vote. That's why many vote wrong.
If you would go for a life saving surgery, who should decide how they should operate you?
The surgeon? Or should it be democratic and should all people working in the hospital vote what the doctor should do? Including the janitors, the man who maintains the gardens and the electricians?
When I was still working, our company had about 10,000 employees. But the management team (9 persons including myself) had weekly meetings and decided on all financial issues. If it should be like in elections and referenda, 10,000 people should have together decided what the company should do. Luckily that never happened, it would have been a financial nightmare as the majority of these 10,000 have no clue about finances (but had other qualifications that we had not).
That question is posed many times if you discuss with British.
We are witnessing polarization in almost every developed western nation at the moment. And I believe the origin lies in the rampant disparity in wealth, most of which has been disproportionately distributed. No CEO nor trader nor hedge fund manager nor private equity manager ever earns and deserves more than a fraction of what they current take. Nor does any nurse nor police man nor firefighter nor garbage collector deserve so little. We have to start looking at the actual efforts made (inputs perused) rather than the output generated. This in my opinion is the biggest reason for the political split in almost every nation. The manipulations and how some political pawns like Nigel Farage played and mislead people is just a side story.
Nigel Farage made alot of money sitting in the EU parliament. So he was happy that the UK was member as he accepted all that money the EU gave him personally, or at least he is a man with two faces.
Things are manipulated by Putin too. Some time ago (2011 I think) when I was in Russia I was told that Putin is manipulating the social media to make the West weaker. He does surely the same in France with the yellow hesjes, the elections in the US, the elections in Germany, the elections in Ukraine, the trouble in Venezuela...
He is the most dangerous man on earth and responsible for a lot of the turmoil in the West.
Agree with everything you said re Putin. About Nigel Farage there was a Bloomberg piece that just came out that aleges he mislead people and the market on Brexit referendum night by conceding several times defeat and pushing up the pound while he was shorting into that although he knew from some private polling company that odds were in Ukip's favor. This guy is in my book one of the dirtiest guys in the UK who mislead Brexiters with false promises and lies.
ZeroHedge, RT and a few other websites are russian Puppet sites, filled with chinese bots... Many random websites have a pro Trump, pro russia, any bad on the West is good... Comment sections are all bots, or retards trying to spew hate, seen many times writings like : when are we gonna pick up our guns, type of comment. In sighting violence from Moscow and Beijing in comment sections hoping some inbreds start chaos.
Very sad russia became like this, smart people and hard working. Little putin is very intelligent, but that war mentality got the best of him... Them and the clowns in china have constant peasants getting paid peanuts to type 8 hours a day on different sites, pro china hating america, it's crazy
I hear the leave camp say all the time: we will negociate new deals with the EU after we leave.
Do they know how much that will cost them if they should have to pay for free trading?
Or they want free trading without paying anything?
Curious about the answers of the expert British who want to leave. Probably none of them will answer here.
Do they know how much that will cost them if they should have to pay for free trading?
Or they want free trading without paying anything?
Curious about the answers of the expert British who want to leave. Probably none of them will answer here.
That Russian social media factory is somewhere in St Petersburg. Was there but did not know where it exactly is located, if not I would have gone there and take pictures.
France Yellow Vest isn't russia tho... That's a little too strong, Yellow Vest are the people tired of getting shitted on, having nothing while taxes are high on everything, and having the will to protest to oust Macron. russia made a move in Hungary, russian bank moving in, Romania is next
Honestly russia isn't evil like china per say, he doesn't have a let's conquer the world and dominate everything like winnie the pooh made in china 2025 agenda... He is extremely paranoid tho, constant missiles and bomb talks