France ready to veto any meaningless Brexit delay: Elysee official

[Turveyd]

I don't want any trade deal with the US. However:

Donald Trump’s national security adviser, John Bolton, said America is “ready to go” with a US-UK trade deal.

Mr Bolton told Sky News: “We can do these deals quickly. We want to partner with a newly independent Britain.”

Trump, yeah that'll go well.

The issue is, America yeah great but huge oceon between them and us like a weeks transport time, more ships are going to be needed to handle our food requirements then factor in fuel cost and perishable items and everything is going to cost more than the EU supplying us

 

[Visaria]

Vive La France!

The Yellow Jackets are still rioting every weekend! It's like a scheduled event now. Free entertainment. The media are bored of reporting it though.

However if you want to witness the weekly mayhem for yourself, avoid Eurostar. Officials on the Paris end are all on strike. Eurostar has had to cancel all its trains.

Vive La France indeed!

 

[JSOP]

In history France have never been "friends" with the UK.
The British were always a pain in the *** in any discussion in the EU (and elsewhere). They always want special treatments and better conditions then the rest. The don't know the word "solidarity", but "egoism" they know very well.

France has never been friendly with any countries throughout history. If you look at French history, it's been in war with virtually every single European country, Franco-Prussia war, Franco-Spanish wars, Italian Wars, 700 years of wars against the British including some of the more famous ones like Hundred Years War, War of 1812 and etc., Franco-Dutch war, Napoleonic Wars with all over Europe. So this is nothing new. It's la passion!!! As much as I love the French culture, its spirit and its elegance, they are not known for being objective and thinking in terms of the big picture, especially when it comes to negotiation. Treaty of Versailles, need I say more? If France hasn't been so aggressive in negotiating such a punishing treatment on the Germans, we might have just might have avoided WWII. This is the same thing.

The US already told the British that in negociations for trade agreements the UK should open their market completely for the US agricultural sector. Included chlorinated chickens. So just replace the EU agreements with new agreements is not as simpe as it looks and might end with unfavorable agreements.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trum...dAD-prES22q7KQq-829VXDbGBfbCCh164yU0DbTPONjt9
"A potential US-UK trade agreement is back in the spotlight as US President Donald Trump tweeted on Thursday that “the potential is unlimited” for a large-scale deal between the two sides.
”The US must “learn to abide by British law and British standards, or kiss goodbye to any trade deal and join the back of the queue,” Eustice said in an opinion article in the Guardian. “A modern trade deal is not simply about commerce, it is also about values.”

Unfortunately for the UK, the Americans are in a much stronger position. The UK government has promised its citizens that it will work to strike free trade deals with countries around the world after Britain leaves the European Union. The US — which is Britain’s largest trading partner after the EU — is under less pressure to follow through.

But the UK won’t want to allow the US to extract too many concessions. The British government will want to protect its food standards and guard its industries from unfair competition, as well as ensure fair government procurement standards and dispute resolution policies.

The US is known to move faster than other developed nations in striking trade deals. However, it could easily take two to four years to get this deal done, if it’s done at all, Henig told Yahoo Finance UK.

“It’s already in trouble,” according to David Henig, a former trade negotiator who is now director of the UK Trade Policy Project at the European Centre for International Political Economy. “Right now, the way it looks, it’s not happening anytime soon.”

US is not the only significant trading partner that UK can do business with in the WTO though. This is what EU needs to understand. Don't forget UK also has The CommonWealth which contains two of the largest resource supplying countries, Canada and Australia plus all of the resource supplying countries in Africa that are extremely mineral rich and New Zealand which is a country that is a major agriculture producer along with again Canada that's already an agricultural supplier to the UK. So US is in a stronger position? Not necessarily. UK has lots of trading partners to choose from besides US and EU and with advancement in shipping technology today, there is no country that's too far anymore. Especially with US imposing tariffs on pretty much everybody, countries are more eager to do business with UK than everyone thinks. And lastly don't forget, UK itself is a manufacturer and strong producer in many facets of the economy. Even if nobody wants to trade with UK anymore just because it left the EU, UK is more than capable to produce and support its own population. UK was the country that pioneered the Industrial Revolution. I think UK needs to look at itself more and develop its own infrastructure instead of focusing on external imports like the last several decades. And when UK does that, it would find many solution to its problems.

Looks more like war then negociations. The British will still continue to dream how good life will be after Brexit.

It's not a dream. It will be a reality. You will see. I have confidence in UK and its people.

 

[destriero]

Doesn’t mean that they will. I am short UK CDS via swaptions. New referendum.

 

[betcashrun]

- UK Parliament has rejected twice the withdrawal deal Mrs May has negotiated with the EU.
- MPs have voted in favor of ruling out leaving the EU without a deal.
- EU would not likely grant a delay.
Conclusion:
UK would cancel the Article 50 Brexit process or leave the EU without a deal (in contradiction to MPs vote and another nail in the coffin).

 

[luisHK]

The Yellow Jackets are still rioting every weekend! It's like a scheduled event now. Free entertainment. The media are bored of reporting it though.

However if you want to witness the weekly mayhem for yourself, avoid Eurostar. Officials on the Paris end are all on strike. Eurostar has had to cancel all its trains.

Vive La France indeed!

Didn't know about the Eurostar... Yes Paris is a mess apparently, dealing with the biggest riots since at least 1968, the buggers even burnt down Le Fouquets (the bar in the Fouquets Barriere hotel, next door upstairs in the interior courtyard is one of the best places to have a drink in Paris) . i wished the police would dare and shoot a few hundreds rioters but that doesn't seem to be happening anytime soon. Not sure why demonstrations are so much more aggressive in France than in neighboring countries, but l'exception francaise is showing its ugly head again.

 

[Visaria]

The British were always a pain in the *** in any discussion in the EU (and elsewhere). They always want special treatments and better conditions then the rest. The don't know the word "solidarity", but "egoism" they know very well.

Well I think we are special! And deserve special treatment. And better conditions.

If the EU doesn't like that....too bad. By all means, kick us out!

 

[Visaria]

the buggers even burnt down Le Fouquets (the bar in the Fouquets Barriere hotel, next door upstairs in the interior courtyard is one of the best places to have a drink in Paris) . i

Sorry to hear. Not had the pleasure of drinking there...guess I never will.

On a brighter note, come visit London. The weather is slowly improving and birds are singing about brexit. Even they can't wait!

 

[schweiz]

I don't want any trade deal with the US. However:

Donald Trump’s national security adviser, John Bolton, said America is “ready to go” with a US-UK trade deal.

Mr Bolton told Sky News: “We can do these deals quickly. We want to partner with a newly independent Britain.”

You really think the whole world is begging the UK to be friends? You have still the empirical attitude and opinion from centuries ago. The world will not end if the UK would disappear.

 

[schweiz]

Trump, yeah that'll go well.

The issue is, America yeah great but huge oceon between them and us like a weeks transport time, more ships are going to be needed to handle our food requirements then factor in fuel cost and perishable items and everything is going to cost more than the EU supplying us

Perople need to use their brain, you do, but for almost 50% of the British that seems to be an issue.