Foundations of conservatism

[Ricter]

Quote from drjekyllus:

Of course you don't get it. You are an Obama supporting liberal. By definition, you do not get it. Let me sum it up real quick.

Its a very simply philosophy. If an individual cannot reasonably be expected to do it for themselves, then the Government provides it. The average person, or even Bill Gates for that matter, cannot reasonably be expected to field their own army and thus the government is responsible. The average person cannot be expected to pave their own roads, and thus the government is responsible.

Does not answer his question.

 

[drjekyllus]

Quote from Ricter:

Does not answer his question.

I think it clearly states why the conservatives are in favor of having a government run military.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from drjekyllus:

I think it clearly states why the conservatives are in favor of having a government run military.

And that is not his question.

 

[Mav88]

how much is the annual budget for the military/welfare contracting business anyway?800billion ?Isnt that the same amount for healthcare over 10 yrs?Why is the military budget so high?There is no more cold war-what are we spending more on military now than during the 80s???How can we choose military over health?Whats up with these lack of priorities?

The whole low tax ,big military mantra is a contradiction.You cant have one without the other.The gop bitches about 80billion a year for health care yet dont dont say dick about 800 billion a yr for military.Hipocrites.Somebody,somehow has to pay for it.Im glad that congress is thinking about taxing the rich to pay for this war.Since the rich support war but avoid serving in war they can at least walk the talk with their wallets.

That's how the liberals win, ppl like this won't even bother to look up the numbers before forming an opinion.

 

[drjekyllus]

Quote from Ricter:

And that is not his question.

Well it doesnt make sense to have a military that is not strong. If they are going to get their asses kicked whats the point of having a military in the first place. It is sort of like owning a car that does not start. I sort of thought that it was obvious to most that if you are going to have a military, then it ought to be a good and strong military that can actually achieve its goal. Its really common sense.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from drjekyllus:

Well it doesnt make sense to have a military that is not strong. If they are going to get their asses kicked whats the point of having a military in the first place. It is sort of like owning a car that does not start. I sort of thought that it was obvious to most that if you are going to have a military, then it ought to be a good and strong military that can actually achieve its goal. Its really common sense.

Agreed. So, do you believe we can have a strong national defense AND small government AND low taxation? If so, how?

 

[HotTip]

Quote from IShopAtPublix:

Even as a kid in high school I was wondering how you can combine "strong national defense" (euphemism for big military), small government and low taxes. The foundations of modern "conservatism" are utter nonsense.

You're an idiot.

Conservatism believes in LIMITED federal government, based on what is in the Articles of the Constitution. Liberals, on the other hand, feel that the federal government is entitled to solve any problem, which means that they are unconstrained by the Constitution. Conservatism also believes in LIBERTY, some of which you surrender when obligated to work for the government by paying taxes. Conservatives don't mind surrendering some liberty through taxes, as long as it is meant to finance the limited responsibilities of government. However, when Liberals attempt to venture outside of the Constitution to solve every problem under the sun, it results in greater spending that inevitably leads to higher taxes and less liberty.

If you think what I described is a "fraud", then you must think that our Constitution is a fraud as well.

 

[drjekyllus]

Quote from Ricter:

Agreed. So, do you believe we can have a strong national defense AND small government AND low taxation? If so, how?

Sure. A strong military and small government is absolutely achievable. I do not see why Pubix thinks one excludes the other.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from drjekyllus:

Sure. A strong military and small government is absolutely achievable. I do not see why Pubix thinks one excludes the other.

So he can justify in his mind being a liberal and more importantly justify hating conservatives.

 

[dsq]

Quote from drjekyllus:

Sure. A strong military and small government is absolutely achievable. I do not see why Pubix thinks one excludes the other.

In your dreams.Its a conservative pipedream and mantra.Look at the military today.Half of your tax dollars go to pay for for the military budget.Thats at a minimum half.