Really? Is this your considered opinion? Do you have some way of actually demonstrating the truth of your rather bizarre statements?Quote from Safilo:
QE is an act with no value to anyone. It's not like a factory which produces goods, and is therefore worthy of investment. QE makes "more money available" but money itself has no value. Money represents debt and issuing more to create the illusion of prosperity is helping what, exactly? Fake it till you make it?
How is KRFT not over $9,000 / share yet with all these fools slurping down the kool aid?
Quote from Martinghoul:
Really? Is this your considered opinion? Do you have some way of actually demonstrating the truth of your rather bizarre statements?
Quote from jem:
pumping out dollars is being done in the hopes of propping up the values of the assets securing the loans on banks books.
I think you can create asset inflation by devaluing the dollar.

The Fed did NOT bail out my industry. The Fed bailed out the banks. One could argue that my industry wouldn't exist w/o the banks, but, in that regard, we're not alone, I daresay.Quote from Maverick74:
Food for thought, would Martin be able to feed his family if the Fed never bailed out his industry?
Is it possible that Martin's defense of this industry is almost entirely predicated on the fact he draws a salary courtesy of the Fed?
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Well, before we get to that, I wanted to make sure that I understood a couple of things that you mentioned. Specifically, QE has no value because "it's not like a factory that produces goods". Then you mentioned that "money has no value and represents debt". Are these accurate and do you believe in these statements?Quote from Safilo:
I should have specified that QE is helping the current administration and its cronies save face politically...but beyond that, feel free to explain how QE is helping the economy in any practical sense. I'd love to hear your bizarre rationale.
Quote from Martinghoul:
The Fed did NOT bail out my industry. The Fed bailed out the banks. One could argue that my industry wouldn't exist w/o the banks, but, in that regard, we're not alone, I daresay.
Furthermore, I'm not entirely clear how I was defending a particular "industry" here. And, one thing for sure, I DON'T draw a salary courtesy of the Fed.
Some things to ponder...![]()
So are you saying then that pretty much all businesses and their employees have benefited from Fed's QE?Quote from brokerboy:
the only thing that matter is do you believe the markets would be so high today without QE? the idea of QE is to kill the bond market so people are forced into riskier assets.
i think top people in all industries draw salaries today because of the fed. they set up a system where you are forced to be in the stock market or leave cash in the bank. what happens if they destroy the dollar? there is no safe place for your money anymore. why would anyone hire someone or grow a business when the fed tells you we will pump money into the economy until you do it. the system makes no sense. also the businesses crying about taxes have been given 100x better of a deal from the fed already. the idea that Washington is broken is not a shock but come on if someone wanted to spend money and grow a business they would of did it already.
if you work for a business that is a publicly traded stock you draw a salary from the fed.