forex price action as an edge

Quote from cabletrader:

Can't agree with any of that unfortunately :p

Some indicators can provide useful information and are often closely monitored by market players, for example a 200-day MA.
I can't say I've ever seen anyone selling indicators, the most popular ones are available free with most charting packages, even Jurik's have been rehashed and written for platforms such as MT4 and are now widely available free.

As for value I don't believe it's relevant or calculable, currencies often go to extremes well past what could be considered over/under value, I suppose the idea being to shake out other players, and common sense doesn't really help when the market is behaving irrationally!

"The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent" - (John Maynard Keynes 1883 - 1946)

keep using those indicators cable trader :)

On the other hand what your calling irrational I call common sense.........
 
I'd like to ask a simple question since I just stumbled here. How did you get rid of indicators and started using price action?
 
For proprietary trading indicators are useless . You will miss a lot of trades or get in late when you use indicators .

But to answer your question I right clicked and deleted the indicators .
 
Quote from speres:

keep using those indicators cable trader :)

On the other hand what your calling irrational I call common sense.........

Yup, averaging 2k pips per month I guess I really need to change my strategy
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Guys, you're missing the whole point of the exercise, success/failure does not depend on whether you use indicators or not!

(speres, if you honestly believe the market applies common sense when it comes to deciding currency values then all I can say is good luck with that anyway, you've obviously never experienced totally irrational 'overbought' and 'oversold' :D )

John Maynard Keynes said "The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent" for a reason you know!
 
Quote from temptingtara:

Haha Mr Cable, good point but I think you've missed mine. I'm not saying no one can ever make the squiggly lines work, just I've never seen anyone show how to use them consistently.

Most other things are revealed before someone dies for fame or money or philanthropy but not indicators... there's no Elliot & Magee of hot trades.

I don't have a problem believing you make them work as you're one of the most helpful members of ET. I was hoping to pay $50 for your book but a cool million?

lol

Ok I'll meet you in the middle, $499,975, and I'll even pay for lunch :D

I'm being facetious of course, to be honest pretty much anything which can be taught or brought is probably not even worth 50 bucks as any prospective purchaser (and potentially consistently profitable trader) should have the insight and analytical thought process to work it out for themselves. That's where the alleged ~90% go wrong, they're too busy looking for a price predictor when they should be focusing on what trading is fundamentally all about.

Your ex was right when he said "all it takes is a few lines on a chart, a bit of PA knowledge and several thousand hours to understand how it fits together", (maybe with the exception of the few thousand hours part!), but at the end of the day it's what an individual trader is comfortable with which counts. Some may perform well with just an empty chart, others may need a host of indicators, both may be just as profitable as the other.

Indicators aren't really anything more than a comfort blanket to help a trader pull the trigger, no-one really knows what price will do, not even the multi-million-dollar corporates with their army of market analysts and top notch economists. So what does that leave? Probability.
 
Quote from Reaver:

Bro trust me I was the same way and honestly have to say I still sort of feel that most of Joe's interest lies in self-promotion...

But the book was recommended by a close friend who used to trade on desks in Chicago and at the Merc and now trades from home successfully. And I mean successfully. He didn't learn to trade from reading Ross, he learned from experience in Chicago, but he said Ross' book was probably the best on the subject of reading straight Price Action and patterns.

I was pretty surprised when he told me to pick it up, but I did because he knows what he's talking about. He was right, I was highly impressed.

I haven't read Ross' other books, so I can't comment...but Day Trading is a very helpful book.

I feel like a shill over this book, but it's pretty well-known what my stance on vendors is around here. I have definitely found it to be of value or I wouldn't have recommended it. ha ha

Good to hear from you bud. Good trading.

Looks like the book is on sale at ebay:

http://elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?threadid=160549
 
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