Forbes: GOOG could fall 50% in 2006

to the moon...

Quote from capmac:

GOOG Forbes columnist says GOOG could fall 50% in 2006 (416.78 -3.37)

Not much explanation provided, but Forbest columnist Daniel Lyons says today in his column that GOOG will drop 50% plus by the end of 2006.
 
<i>CSCO at their peak I believe had a 550 billlion market cap and had no where near the monopoly GOOG has.</i>

<i>No company has ever grown this fast and had this kind of monopoly on a commodity that most of us would agree is the most valuable in the world. Yes, even more valuable then oil.</i>

I'm dyin' here. Let me in on the secret. What's this magical commodity Google has a monopoly on?

Martin
 
Quote from Sparohok:

<i>CSCO at their peak I believe had a 550 billlion market cap and had no where near the monopoly GOOG has.</i>

<i>No company has ever grown this fast and had this kind of monopoly on a commodity that most of us would agree is the most valuable in the world. Yes, even more valuable then oil.</i>

I'm dyin' here. Let me in on the secret. What's this magical commodity Google has a monopoly on?

Martin

Information, the most valuable commodity in the world.
 
Quote from Maverick74:

Information, the most valuable commodity in the world.


last time I checked, information is not a commodity:p

just picking on you cuz you have a good argument.

I would phrase it as information is the most valuable resource in the world.


edit: i still stand strong that GOOG will stumble within the next 5 weeks or so.
 
Quote from RunTrade:

last time I checked, information is not a commodity:p

just picking on you cuz you have a good argument.

I would phrase it as information is the most valuable resource in the world.


edit: i still stand strong that GOOG will stumble within the next 5 weeks or so.

Gorden Gecko "The most valuable commodity I know of is information."

Wall Street

:D
 
Quote from Maverick74:

Information, the most valuable commodity in the world.

So, you are actually claiming that Google has a monopoly on information?

I just wanted to double check before I waste any more time on your silliness.

Martin
 
Bill future stratergy seem to be paying for users to come to the site, think about it, what could be more exciting than free money.

Quote from nkhoi:

Bill Gate on who get pay...

U. Mag
... (google) they're a brand new product and in order to compete with them you can't compete in your traditional sense because no one is paying money to do searches.

Bill
Well, advertisers are paying, Anyway.

U.Mag
Advertisers, but the consumer, to get the consumer mindshare.

Bill
Right, but advertisers are paying anyway. And right now nobody is paying the consumer for their time, which eventually people will. If you're willing to use search engine you'll get paid to do that.

U.Mag
To actually search?

Bill
...Today in Web search, you're getting nothing and the company on the other side is making 50,60 bucks a year from your time. Over time as that's more competitive you'll get either a check or coupons or free content in return for the value you're creating....
Search today is complete garbage compare to what it will be even three or four years from now...

http://www.colleges.com/Umagazine/2005winter/1.html
page 1-18
 
Quote from Sparohok:

So, you are actually claiming that Google has a monopoly on information?

I just wanted to double check before I waste any more time on your silliness.

Martin

Yes Martin, they do. It is their intention to commoditize the information market. They have a monopoly because at this time, they are the only company that can demand a monetary retribution for information. The reason for that is, they are more effective in getting the right information to the right people to create a point of sale or point of interest.

On top of that, with their recent stake in Time Warner, they are expanding into the media business. It's only a matter of time before GOOG has a tv network, radio, and pretty soon, they will own the rights to provide the entire city of San Francisco with wifi connecting through them.

It's their goal to control every pathway in which you get information. From the internet, to media, to print ads. Now with the advent of the $200 pc they are about to introduce, they are going to actually give you the actual device to do that. I would say, this company is soon going to be dealing with anti-trust issues.
 
Quote from Maverick74:

My guess is GOOG peaks out somewhere around $1,200 a share. Not sure when that will be. That would give them a market cap around 400 billion. CSCO at their peak I believe had a 550 billlion market cap and had no where near the monopoly GOOG has.

The bottom line is this. If GOOG had been splitting their stock all the way up and was only a $40 stock now, you guys wouldn't even be talking about it. It's only because GOOG is trading at such a large number that you figure it's too high. Right now GOOG is shattering every record on the books for a company in this country since its existence. No company has ever grown this fast and had this kind of monopoly on a commodity that most of us would agree is the most valuable in the world. Yes, even more valuable then oil.

This company is being run by some of the smartest guys on the planet and these guys are not going to stop till they own and control every piece of information and media in the world. If I had to put a price tag on that, I would say, I don't know, 10 trillion? Give or take. So a 400 billion market cap seems about right to me. This is the greatest growth story ever. I'm sure their will be sharp pullbacks along the way as well as many many downgrades.

Keep in mind, the only reason theses analysts are downgrading the stock is so they can put their customers back in it later, nice double commission setup. Anyway, good luck to all the longs and shorts in this stock. It's a great trading vehicle.

I agree. Few people know where this is headed. Google wants to run the world.

Google will be everywhere and in everything in 20 years.

John
 
Quote from Maverick74:

Yes Martin, they do.
If the Internet has taught us anything, it is that information becomes more useful the less control is exerted over it. Far from being a monopoly, Google thrives on creating value by lowering barriers to information. Google's competitive advantage is quite literally the opposite of monopoly.

Google does not seek to control information but to organize it. What little information Google actually owns (Keyhole satellite data for example) they give away for free. None of their announced or even rumored initiatives would extend monopolistic control over any source of information.

Virtually all of the information Google serves belongs to someone else. The information stored on its data centers and passing through its networks is all broadcast data derived from public sources. Your Gmail belongs to you, not Google. Advertisers control their own content, and the value of that content is predicated on giving it away for free.

Lacking any uncompetitive advantage, Google must rely only on its competitive advantages which are considerable.

I believe in what Google is doing and I think they are one of Silicon Valley's great success stories. Sadly, Google has fallen victim to their own hype. They have been overvalued to the point where their actual business model can no longer plausibly deliver the earnings growth implied by their stock price. As a result, the only way to make a bull case for Google's stock is to invent new and nonsensical business models for them.

Martin
 
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