For Trader Zones, who cares a lot

Some total and full disclosure of what happened w/me.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=148006&

All in all I ended up w/ just about 500K in debt, I went from having been worth millions, to having to move back in w/ my mom and dad. I was going to declare bankruptcy, but I couldn't do it. To this day I don't know why I couldn't do it.

It got to where I had to start making a lot of money again, or go on SSI. I was going to start another trading site, I know that stuff well..but it just didn't feel right. I had no money to my name, I wouldn't be trading myself..and that felt dirty to me.

In addition to being a good trader (which I am, I'm averaging about $1000 a day when I do trade), I'm a very good marketer. I decided that I'd offer my services as a marketer to people, because a lot of people in this industry know I'm very good at it. People that include the likes of Tim Sykes, MBTrading, Trading Markets and others.

So anyway, I was going to do the marketing thing for awhile, I did always like it a lot. The original plan was to do it long enough to make enough to pay my bills off....I thought that would take a year or two. It turns out I'm a much better marketer then I was ever a trader, because I've made well in excess of $10million for my clients this year, and a tad over $1million for myself. My last big product launch made $929,000 in 2 1/2 hours for my client and crashed Dell Server. So...like I said, I'm a better marketer then I was ever a trader (classic middle child attention whore syndrome I guess).

So anyway, like I said the original game plan was to get into marketing for other people, and a few simple Clickbank products for myself, just to make enough to get back into trading..but its turned out I like trading, I LOVE marketing.

As far as ET goes, I still have a lot of friends here and I talk to them in PM since I don't tend to reply to my emails. When I'm over here talking to them, then sometimes I stop over to some of the threads and make an ass of myself, because i have nothing better to do.

The people who do drive by spamming are broke, low class idiots. I don't hire anyone who doesnt have at least a $70,000 budget, including the money upfront to hire me.

As far as the guy from Microsoft..you can see that I had that offer on the table, and was going to do that. About three weeks after that offer was made to me, I ended up in the hospital for about a month and a half..he revoked the offer and hired someone else, because he needed someone right away. I'd have probably done the same thing. This is probably the sixth or seventh time I've said that here.



Brandon
 
I agree Mark. I come back to ET because I have friends here. ET used to be hugely valuable to my business, but to be honest I don't see it as something that has value to my business, or that of any of my clients either. As you pointed out, the social networks are much more productive.
In terms of my own business, I just put a site up (which isnt a very good one) cos I figured it didn't look too classy to be an Internet Marketer and not even have a website. I charge a ton of money upfront, and a good portion of a business back end though, and that's not the type of sale you will get off a website. All of my most recent clients have been referrals by other, happy, clients.
Brandon



Quote from NihabaAshi:

Brandon,

I'm being sarcastic about your marketing considering it's really no big deal in comparison to the spammers that TZ typically goes after and you haven't asked any ET members to cough up a penny to learn any trading stuff.

On a serious (not sarcastic) note, I notice you're spending more time elsewhere from ET building your marketing business.

Good choice considering most trader forums aren't keeping up with where a ton of traders have moved too.

In fact, I find more useful trading tips being freely discussed at other social networking sites in comparison to disucssion forums like Elitetrader.com

Could be a change in the wind that I first begin noticing early last year when I saw some old familiar faces of valued ET members of the past showing up elsewhere posting great stuff freely about trading while never mentioning anything about Elitetrader.com

Mark
 
How was that trip to Cambodia? I hear that is where NAMBLA is now telling all their members to go since Thailand is cracking down.


Quote from mxjones:

Because you are a narcissist, but more appropriately you are a pathological liar. Trader, mentor, run a website, manage money, going to work with some guy who helped run Microsoft, gonna provide free mentoring for people on ET, marketer, blah, blah, blah...

Why can't you just go away like you said you would here:

http://elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=161348

Again, pathological liar:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathological_liar
 
If you ever did happen to see a site I am promoting come here and do a random drive by spam, you should let me know because at the very least I'd jump the clients ass. It's at best unproductive, and at worst counter productive to do it.


Quote from NihabaAshi:

Actually,



Yet, it's obvious that he's still marketing here at ET especially at a website visited by spammers that obviously need help in marketing their services (if they didn't need help they wouldn't resort to spamming).



Mark
 
In terms of ET, I think it's a decent sponsorship still for a brokerage firm or a prop firm. I'm not sure how useful it would be for an info product provider.

The biggest one I'm aware of that you guys are probably familiar with is Bill Polous. His son Greg is a friend and mentor of mine and handles all of his marketing. They have an insanely successful business , and I doubt you have ever seen them on ET.
 
Quote from Brandonf:

How was that trip to Cambodia? I hear that is where NAMBLA is now telling all their members to go since Thailand is cracking down.

Brandon, that makes no sense. Did I accuse you of molesting children? No, I did not. I accused you of being a pathological liar, and proof of that lies in your own words and actions. So don't be an idiot, because karma is a bitch. Someone who says he has had the health problems you say you have had should understand that. In fact, someone who says he has had the health problems you say you have had should have a better appreciation for life and not have to come to ET and constantly talk himself up - present thread included - only to stir up controversy and shit because you know most of the people here no longer like or respect you.

Quite frankly, it makes me wonder if your health issues are not just another delusion of you being a pathological liar.

If they aren't, then it is truly sad that you learned nothing from your situation.

http://elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=161348

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathological_liar
 
What I learned from my situation is that life is potentially short, and if I'm going to make time for losers it's at least going to entertain me.
 
Okay, so I was wrong it did not take all week to hit $500,000, we just hit the $500,000 sales mark about an hour or so ago. The shopping cart was opened up Monday.
 
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